I dont get all the Bard hatred..

[AkashiXI]

Pretty much.

While I agree with you that many Bards over exaggerate the changes over the class, there's still merit to changing the core of a job after 2 years in the making. Your class (assuming you're a Monk main) has only gotten love from Square through the updates, and it's also incredibly similar to its 2.0 counterpart. Who knows, maybe because you're on the other side of the fence is the reason you lack sympathy.

[Humorless]

(assuming you're a Monk main)

Hmm? They nerfed GL application and Monk has been complete shit in dungeons for a long time lol. It was only good for raiding until Elixer field.

[RiceisNice]

Hmm? They nerfed GL application and Monk has been complete shit in dungeons for a long time lol. It was only good for raiding until Elixer field.

In otherwords, they expanded on your class' shortcomings by giving new abilities to fill it in, while maintaining their core gameplay and concept.

[dragoelete]

Hmm? They nerfed GL application and Monk has been complete shit in dungeons for a long time lol. It was only good for raiding until Elixer field.

i don't see the nerf to GL stacks anywhere it looks exactly the same to me... and if you are so bad at using GL pick a different job?
that is pretty much what you are saying to bards who mained it in 2.x and suddenly its dif so you say "you don't like the new stance so why don't you pick a different job?"

[Humorless]

i don't see the nerf to GL stacks anywhere it looks exactly the same to me... and if you are so bad at using GL pick a different job?

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This is what salt looks like boys.

that is pretty much what you are saying to bards who mained it in 2.x and suddenly its dif so you say "you don't like the new stance so why don't you pick a different job?"

Except you're overreacting like a drama queen. The playstyle is 95% the same. What the hell were you doing, randomly mashing A and D midfight? For the vast majority of the fight you stand still and do your rotation. There's a minor delay if you need to dodge mechanics and you need to adjust slightly if you need to move for a longer time, possibly turning it off if you're actually good at your class.

The only other adjustment is your magical "flow", meaning delaying your straight shot procs an extra GCD if you cannot respond in time which still doesn't make any difference in most cases because double procs are far from frequent. Annnd bloodletter weaving which is by no means different, it's still based on server DoT ticks meaning you can mash your BL key during the GCD to queue up procs like you did pre-3.0 or just use them one GCD later. Worst case scenario you waste a proc. So what? The only thing this does is lower your damage. If dps is an issue the class needs a tweak, not the mechanics or your nonsense "flow".

[aabe]

Yeah the people who complain about wasting procs might as well be top-end BRD players since being a top-end 2.x BRD was all about minmaxing those small gains it has a 2% chance of actually occurring, you're complaining about a slight DPS loss on something that is only a DPS loss in the 1 in 50 chance that it happens, and EVEN THEN if Empyreal Arrow comes up on your next GCD being able to straighter shot and use EA without clipping your GCD is a pretty healthy gain. And this DPS loss would happen even less frequently than pre-expansion because you're spending a lot more time doing things that aren't heavy shot at this point.
The only thing that feels unruly is that EA clips GCD every time you use it, and this is only because 2 years of 2.x taught people that clipping your gcd is the devil because they've never played BLM or NIN.

[RiceisNice]

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Multi-dotting is still a thing, esp on most of the alexander encounters.

You also don't get the straighter shot buff until one second after your GCD passes. You either get a double proc and wasting one, or worse you still get the cast time and non-crit on your straight shot which has lower potency and higher TP cost.

Or we could just purposely delay our GCD and you know, slow down our overall gameplay to molasses with a invisible 3.5 GCD.

[aabe]

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SS procs while reapplying SS are annoying but it seems nobody has realized that it's bugged and you literally do not have a GCD if it happens, too. Just try popping any ogcd when that situation occurs and you'll see what I mean, it will clip every time.
It's an annoyance right now but it's minor, at least you get some situational bullshit because it's also bugged where you can move freely for the entire cast, which you can test easily by flipping WM off and IMMEDIATELY hitting any skill, you will have a cast time but it will never interrupt.

[AkashiXI]

Hmm? They nerfed GL application and Monk has been complete shit in dungeons for a long time lol. It was only good for raiding until Elixer field.

They enhanced your opener, gave you tools to use when an enemy is untargetable, and gave you a better AoE. Your job got a bunch of buffs, so yeah... I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

[mb52139]

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This is what salt looks like boys.


Except you're overreacting like a drama queen. The playstyle is 95% the same. What the hell were you doing, randomly mashing A and D midfight? For the vast majority of the fight you stand still and do your rotation. There's a minor delay if you need to dodge mechanics and you need to adjust slightly if you need to move for a longer time, possibly turning it off if you're actually good at your class.

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You know, its ok for you to admit you really dont know anything bout other classes. The more you argue.. the more 'salty' you look