For those who don`t get the problem with red scrips...

[Chrolo]

Your counting is wrong...

http://xivdb.com/?recipe/31176/Astra...let-of-Healing

And who in the right might wants that?
I think we can all agree that the combat equipment sucks, no denying here.

I'm talking about the actual USEFUL chest pieces:
http://xivdb.com/?item/13044/Cauldro...r%27s-Overcoat

[Aeyis]

You mean the AF2 glamours? Because without tier V materias those are far from useful.

[darkstarpoet1]

I was a 2.X Omnicrafter in max-melded Artisan's.

Now....I can't even. I can barely afford turn-ins for blue scrips. Sure, I can take GSM or CUL to 60 and wait for the cheap lure or the Marion Glas or whatever it is called.

But...DAMN, SE. Seriously. I thought 20 mil going into the expansion was plenty. NOPE. ALL DA NOPE.

it's not bad at all for the blue scripts. there is a cheap turn in for almost every class. the only one i didn't find a cheap one for was arm. my suggestion as an omni is to grind the nuggets on arm, bsm, and make whetstones with gsm. then use crp and do the turn in for mica grinding wheel for your scripts. this allows you to use the materials you already grinded on so already have created for the turn ins.

bsm/ arm grind on hardsilver nugget once you can make them. make as many as possible while getting 18k+ exp
crp grind on dark chestnut lumber. same as above.
gsm grind on mica whetstones. same as above.

now you have all the materials made already to create the cloud mica grinding wheel. easy to create at level 56 and from 56-60 you make enough exp to cap crp, scripts to get the books for all classes, and scripts to buy all adept gear. granted ths is not the only way to do it, but it allowed me to work on leveling multiple crafts and get all books and gear for very little cost.

the red script gate is where the major issue comes in for crafting and gathering.

[scarebearz]

And who in the right might wants that?
I think we can all agree that the combat equipment sucks, no denying here.

I'm talking about the actual USEFUL chest pieces:
http://xivdb.com/?item/13044/Cauldro...r%27s-Overcoat

People do what the i180 battle gear, it's just cost prohibative.

How is a crafter chest any more use? We already have gear that allows us to make 2* items and you've just said that the high-end crafted items suck....

[DarthBuzzer]

Going by the prices right now mats cost at max 20 million, its still alot but no way 300 mil, ppl overreacting again

I'm not sure where you got that figure from but thats absolutely false. It's hundreds of millions in mats on every server.

[Chrolo]

I'm not sure where you got that figure from but thats absolutely false. It's hundreds of millions in mats on every server.

Right now coke is being sold for 800k ea on moogle, thats 4m a mat, someone on the crafting subforum said that he bought the astral birch ingredient for 2,5m. These are actual prices that ppl would also pay, not some inflated pseudo prices.

And scarebearz wasnt the general opinion that the crafted battle pieces suck and have no use in endgame, while the crafter equipment will be needed when 3 stars come?

[scarebearz]

And scarebearz wasnt the general opinion that the crafted battle pieces suck and have no use in endgame, while the crafter equipment will be needed when 3 stars come?

The i180 pieces would be fine as a temp (temp being the key factor when it comes to value) upgrade for many, the problem is by the time we cant actually make these for affordable prices, they will be useless as everyone will be in i200+ gears.

Looking at the state of crafting in 3.x, do you really think anyone gives a darn about 3* crafts? I suspect when 3* is out we'll have a new version of "artisan" gear or something silly, looks like we'll also have silly restrictions on mats too.

So if anyone is spending millions and millions just to get "ready" for 3*, I think they have gone mad xD

[Chrolo]

I can link like 5 ppl saying its worse than upgraded law gear, i havent done any comparioson since i wasnt planning to craft any of it until i had my own crafter gear.
Anyway what would you do with your 2300 millions if not trying to get a headstart. A fraction of your money is already enough to buy a new ishgard plot.

You might aswell quit crafting if you dont think it will get better again. I for one are still hoping

[scarebearz]

I can link like 5 ppl saying its worse than upgraded law gear, i havent done any comparioson since i wasnt planning to craft any of it until i had my own crafter gear.
Anyway what would you do with your 2300 millions if not trying to get a headstart. A fraction of your money is already enough to buy a new ishgard plot.

You might aswell quit crafting if you dont think it will get better again. I for one are still hoping

With how rare current mats are, I doubt I have enough gil to gear all of my crafts.

I only spend gil on crafting when I think there is a decent chance I'll make it back, investing on speculation for 3* with how things are at the moment imo is not wise at all ^^

I'd quite like a i180 caster robe for my main (BLM), but frankly it's not worth anywhere near it's cost, as a temp upgrade that I'd replace in a few weeks.

[Neuflune]

I took one look at the Red Scrips and I was like "NOPE".