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    Player Kiyyto's Avatar
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    Everyone gets the problem except trolls.
    What amazes me is that you think that somehow this was a mistake, like somehow the devs thought it'd be fun but messed up.

    I've said this before and it is worth repeating, every single action and moment in this game is motivate by "how can we make this piece of content take far, far, far more time to complete than it should?"

    That's why you do everything in this "game" 50' 200' 1,000x

    They don't want you to finish, ever, until their next ff mmo is released.
    The devs don't ever want you to leave, and they don't ever want you to finish.
    Their entire job is to draw out the content in this game to the brink of making you quit, but don't.

    That's really all they have done since day 1.
    Welcome to mmo's, if you like that, cool.
    But please, understand that this is not a mistake. This is exactly what they want, they want you gathering, collecting, grinding, crafting, raiding endlessly until they shut the servers off.

    Most people know what's going on, and they don't care. They are just here to mindlessly waste their time with each other. It really doesn't matter how ridiculous or painfully drawn out it gets, cause this isn't a game in any traditional sense. Mmo's are a place for people to check out of their life. They are a device to trick yourself into feeling accomplishment. Not saying people who stay here are losers, but we all do lose a great deal of time being here.

    Read about it.

    Anyway, scripts aren't a mistake, they aren't any worse than supra was, it's just more of the same
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyyto View Post
    Anyway, scripts aren't a mistake, they aren't any worse than supra was, it's just more of the same
    Supra was 50x easier to get.

    The mats were "Farmable", the new mats are on a tiny weekly lockout.

    Not the same at all, if it were, far less would be complaining.
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    I had my gathering scrips done in 2 nights and my crafting scrips done in about an hour. Was easy and not to worried about getting the items from them since they really aren't needed for anything right now anyways.
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    Player Kiyyto's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    I had my gathering scrips done in 2 nights and my crafting scrips done in about an hour. Was easy and not to worried about getting the items from them since they really aren't needed for anything right now anyways.

    You are just straight up lying.
    It's not possible and no one should ever take you seriously again, as you are a confirmed liar.

    What was your gathering rotation?
    What nodes did you hit for your red gathering scrips?

    Unless you magically started HW with all your folklore unlocked, and magically had 150 pentamelded gathering gear instantly in your inventory at launch... It took you a lot longer than 2 nights to cap your scrips.

    That is so farsical it doesn't even deserve a response.

    What are your crafter stats that you used to cap red?
    What are your gatherer stats to cap red?

    Lmao, 2 nights... Unless night = 16hrs to you, you are flat out trolling hard.


    Like it or hate it, don't let anyone tell you that the time investment for this script system is not hardcore cause it is.

    Take a look at my crafters and gatherers. I know what I'm talking about.
    I literally gather from 5-12 am & pm Eorzea and it's more than 2 days.
    Crafting red scrips ARE easy to cap, gathering is not.


    Also, he's clearly not including the time commitment to even be able to touch the nodes necessary to get a single red scrip.
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    Last edited by Kiyyto; 07-29-2015 at 06:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyyto View Post
    You are just straight up lying.
    It's not possible and no one should ever take you seriously again, as you are a confirmed liar.
    Umm, plenty of people have done the same thing. If you have both mining and botany leveled, capping red scrips isn't that bad unless you can only play for like an hour a day... Buy an HQ offhand from the market board, then work on blue scrips to get the full set of gatherer equipment... Then start on your red scrips which are cake to get.

    Crafters scrips are a lot harder to get if you don't have a ton of gil. Again I suggest buying an HQ main and offhand for your main crafter. I personally bought a lot of HQ materials from the AH to ensure high collectability ratings since a lot of my friends and FC mates weren't really into high level crafting/gathering yet, but if you have the option of working with someone you know so you don't have to pay outrageous prices, then that is ideal. Anyway, you can almost literally buy your crafter red scrips from the market board, and you can do it whenever you want unlike gathering nodes.
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    Am I the only one who thinks it's not that bad?

    I capped purely from weaver. WEAVER. Farming chimera manes and deepeye tears for a few hours sucked, as well as wasting ventures for materials, but I still capped before the reset.

    I suspect once my culinarian is 60 and has the master book it'll be way easier to cap. I feel the whole 'favor' system for gatherers that you have to do to get these scrip materials is a much better use of my time to complain about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks it's not that bad?

    I capped purely from weaver. WEAVER. Farming chimera manes and deepeye tears for a few hours sucked, as well as wasting ventures for materials, but I still capped before the reset.
    Dare I ask, how did you get the other materials? Things like Hallowed Water and dissolvents don't exactly craft themselves, and you can't send retainers out on ventures to get them either. That means you probably spent gil to buy them or crafted them yourself, meaning you didn't purely cap on weaver alone.

    At high level, there's almost no craft that doesn't require the use of at least one of the other crafts. And right now, market prices are quite high so it would exclude all but the very wealthy to try and buy every material needed. Add to that the need for specialized items in some of the recipes, and you can see why so many people are upset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Dare I ask, how did you get the other materials? Things like Hallowed Water and dissolvents don't exactly craft themselves, and you can't send retainers out on ventures to get them either. That means you probably spent gil to buy them or crafted them yourself, meaning you didn't purely cap on weaver alone.

    At high level, there's almost no craft that doesn't require the use of at least one of the other crafts. And right now, market prices are quite high so it would exclude all but the very wealthy to try and buy every material needed. Add to that the need for specialized items in some of the recipes, and you can see why so many people are upset.


    Feel like you took that too literally. When I say I capped from weaver, I mean I did it 100% from weaver turn ins.

    I had all crafts at level 50 before the expansion, so all I had to do was farm some deepeye tears and blue coral and craft Normal quality dissolvents.
    Never needed hallowed water though, red scrip turn ins don't use that.

    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Supra was 50x easier to get.

    The mats were "Farmable", the new mats are on a tiny weekly lockout.

    Not the same at all, if it were, far less would be complaining.
    Maybe not supra, but I definitely spent way less capping red scrips than I did on the master II book. That's still the worst crafting thing ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Maybe not supra, but I definitely spent way less capping red scrips than I did on the master II book. That's still the worst crafting thing ever.
    And now you have capped red scrips once, what have you gained?

    In terms of effort/cost vs reward, there is no comparision, the master books were great once you unlocked them.

    Also possible to farm the mats for master II books, if cost was an issue, they were also a skill check and imo that was a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    And now you have capped red scrips once, what have you gained?

    In terms of effort/cost vs reward, there is no comparision, the master books were great once you unlocked them.

    Also possible to farm the mats for master II books, if cost was an issue, they were also a skill check and imo that was a good thing.
    I'll cap red scrips again this week (costing even less than it did the first week since I maxed CUL this morning, and still way less than master II books) and I'll have my weaver chest piece.

    I might equal the cost of master II books once I have the full set, maybe. But with how ridiculous of a gil sync desynth can be, I tend to doubt it.

    I can see where you are coming from, though.
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