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    Sapphidia's Avatar
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    Sapphidia Wulfhaven
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    Featherfoot for WAR - actually good in 3.0?

    Apologies if this has been discussed before, but I believe the way fixed evasion skills (Featherfoot and the evasion portion of Dark Arts on Dark Dance) has changed in 3.0.

    In 2.0 they just added to the level-based formula to calculate your dodge, which meant in high end raids they never worked and thus Featherfoot was a completely worthless crossclass for warriors outside of 4man content.

    In 3.0 though, along with a slight nerf from 20% to 12%... I believe featherfoot and Dark Dance actually work fully in raids? Certainly we've been seeing Dodges in various content.

    Is this just because it's entry level stuff, or is it confirmed that Featherfoot will always be a full 12% chance to dodge even in the nastiest of raids? If so, doesnt that make Featherfoot one of the strongest Warrior crossclasses now, and worth taking over Awareness/Second Wind? Even spells can be dodged, so whilst it's unreliable it feels like a noticeable cooldown to use.
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    Alindalia Finrandi
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    Raid boss accuracy is so high as to render miss and non-existent, so while its useful for AOE packs in dungeons, thats really about it.
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    Delcas Seven
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    I don't believe I have dodged at all even in alexander NM. Granted I'm talking on a base level, its possible the Evasion boost increases your evasion stat so its then possible to evade but it's unlikely they're worth it atm.DA Dark dance would be the easiest way of checking to see if there is any potential at all for fleetfoot. If one never gets an evade on DA Dark dance, then theres definitely no way fleetfoot wil lboost your evasion over their accuracy. You might as well take Mantra if you want a general replacement for Awareness.
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    Echo Sindria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    I don't believe I have dodged at all even in alexander NM. Granted I'm talking on a base level, its possible the Evasion boost increases your evasion stat so its then possible to evade but it's unlikely they're worth it atm.DA Dark dance would be the easiest way of checking to see if there is any potential at all for fleetfoot. If one never gets an evade on DA Dark dance, then theres definitely no way fleetfoot wil lboost your evasion over their accuracy. You might as well take Mantra if you want a general replacement for Awareness.
    I haven't evaded anything as far as raid content goes, with a DA Dark Dance. The chance could maybe be there at some abysmally low rate, and I just haven't seen it though because it's not worth wasting a Dark Arts on Dark Dance anyway.

    Just as it's likely not worth taking Featherfoot over something like Second Wind.
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    Sapphidia Wulfhaven
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    Well apparently our DRK has evaded some attacks from the Manipulator in Alex 4 and Blinding Blades in Ravana Ex (which seemed to result in the full damage going onto the MT), though I'm not sure if it's an abysmally low rate or closer to the 12%. Maybe more testing is needed, or maybe it's just because these encounters are still entry level so boss accuracy isnt high enough to totally negate it yet.

    I'll do some tests over the coming days. Something was telling me that Featherfoot is now a 12% fixed amount of evasion regardless of encounter but it's so hard to get concrete facts on a lot of FF mechanics without empirical tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphidia View Post
    Well apparently our DRK has evaded some attacks from the Manipulator in Alex 4 and Blinding Blades in Ravana Ex (which seemed to result in the full damage going onto the MT), though I'm not sure if it's an abysmally low rate or closer to the 12%. Maybe more testing is needed, or maybe it's just because these encounters are still entry level so boss accuracy isnt high enough to totally negate it yet.

    I'll do some tests over the coming days. Something was telling me that Featherfoot is now a 12% fixed amount of evasion regardless of encounter but it's so hard to get concrete facts on a lot of FF mechanics without empirical tests.
    Your dark knight didn't get in front of the blinding blade in time, lol. That's why the MT took full damage.

    He is using a flimsy excuse to avoid culpability.
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    Rawker Stone
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    Let's see... MP is a renewable resource. DA sits on a 5-second cooldown and is oGCD. The cooldown for Dark Dance is a bit long. Either I take reduced damage or ignore it completely. I guess it's alright to push the skill to its maximum potential. There is more to DRK than dmg. As for WAR, I've been a healer to a WAR with FF and it was a very smooth run where I was able to sit in CS for an extended amount of time.
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    Last edited by rawker; 07-26-2015 at 06:27 PM.

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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    nope featherfoot is still useless since WAR has no access to blind outside of potions and other party members. WAR is a self reliant tank and that spot is better spent on either mantra or Second wind.
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    Lyrre Myste
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    i have yet to dodge any attacks in endgame content with DA+DD. not from any of the standard alex raid bosses, nor from ravana.
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    Alys Brangwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carstien View Post
    Your dark knight didn't get in front of the blinding blade in time, lol. That's why the MT took full damage.

    He is using a flimsy excuse to avoid culpability.
    In fairness, latency can make Blinding Blade hits look really janky. I've had a few times where I thought I'd run in front in time (before the animation even began) and instead watched the MT crumple. The hit detection seems to occur about half a second before the animation even begins - it's easy to see if you have Sheltron up.
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