This red scrip system doesn't seem very casual-friendly..

[OliviaBadger]

So...

I was under the impression that Yoshi mentioned end game crafting and gathering became too hardcore, requiring all the expensive melds etc, so they wanted to implement a system that allowed casual players to take their time.

Sounds great! Oh...

So I don't have botanist, just miner, so I can collect 2 items every half an hour. Thats 16 scrips. 32 per hour (no, i cant collect the folklore stuff without expensive melds). So i need to dedicate 14 hours a week to waiting around for these nodes to cap. 2 hours a day. When you compare that to the 25 mins a day for expert roulette, this doesn't seem very casual at all.


I was really looking forward to being able to do endgame gathering without having to spend 5 million gil and watching melds fail over and over. But this has just confirmed my suspicions that SE just wants everything in this game to be a long, arduous grind that kills the enjoyment of the activity.

I would love to hear thoughts on whether you agree or disagree, and whether you plan to cap these red scrips every week.

[Youkulm]

It's not casual friendly at all, you are correct. I am an Omni crafter & gather so i'm basically screwed. 66 weeks alone to gear my crafting classes

They basically made Crafting/Gathering into end game serious raid level commitment. Soooo basically either you're going to spend hoards and hoards of money on the crafted gear or spend months gearing up with scrips.

I too am casual and I don't want to dedicate any more time to gathering when I don't have that much time to play. Apparently were being punished for not being able to be on more than a couple (or less) hours a day. Even with the cap I probably won't be able to meet it most weeks. So I guess were S.O.L.

There isn't too much rage on here surprisingly, only because there is only 3 gathering classes. Check out the Crafting threads. The player base is not happy campers.

[Shadowsun]

They always say "its to not stress people by making them feel they need to have everything at lv60/maxed out" etc so they brick-wall us in instead and cause stress anyway

[Yumi_umi]

I can confirm u need to have A LOT of time if u even wanna survive this red scrip horror.
I'm chipping away at the favors slowly as i used up ALL of my scrips to sample each area except azys llya as its like uh..... There r kinda 0 nodes except for legendary ones. Soo... Uh y se y u do this.
- matron favor ( hinterlands ) gives u forelands favor buff WTF.
Again y u do this se.

[Jaeifer]

It's actually VERY casual friendly. It's not friendly to people who want to rush through gearing crafters up, or people who raid/farm/level a lot because they probably wont have the time for it.

With a bit of teamwork its still doable reasonably however.

[Millen1]

Red scripts system is a trash grind. It is a massive time sink at the end of you can make decent crafting/gathering gear that very few will be able to afford to buy unless they rmt. The DoW/DoM gear is a total waste of time and does not add any value I can see to raiders in a time frame they would need it or buy it. The last beast tribe in 2.0 for getting the mats for out last crafting/geathering gear left me less than amused though I did the grind for a while. I will still play a bit, this new system has taken my interest off crafting which is the game to me.

[ServerCollaps]

Sounds great! Oh...

So i need to dedicate 14 hours a week to waiting around for these nodes to cap.

I dont think that semi-afking for 14 hours per week is a big deal, stay at the node, get the XIV clock app and visit the game every ~30 minutes when your phone rings

do that 4 times a day and you are finished

[Youkulm]

It's actually VERY casual friendly. It's not friendly to people who want to rush through gearing crafters up, or people who raid/farm/level a lot because they probably won't have the time for it.

With a bit of teamwork it's still doable reasonably however.

You sir do not know the definition of casual if you think taking over a year to gear your crafting classes is casual, that is in fact LESS casual than serious raiding. What teamwork? You cannot trade tokens or collectables, there is zero teamwork involved in this. Sorry but unpopular opinion. Casual friendly would be making it easier to get scripts, with no cap, so I don't have to spent so much playtime, as a CASUAL player, to get past the gate.

Red scripts system is a trash grind. It is a massive time sink at the end of you can make decent crafting/gathering gear that very few will be able to afford to buy unless they rmt. The DoW/DoM gear is a total waste of time and does not add any value I can see to raiders in a time frame they would need it or buy it. The last beast tribe in 2.0 for getting the mats for out last crafting/geathering gear left me less than amused though I did the grind for a while. I will still play a bit, this new system has taken my interest off crafting which is the game to me.

This exactly!!!

All it is is a massive time sink to keep us busy so they don't have to release new content. The sad thing is I'll make more money selling script mats than I will crafting anything else. So why bother even getting the gear? It's not even that good if you check the data tables people have compiled.

What a disappointment.

[Youkulm]

I dont think that semi-afking for 14 hours per week is a big deal, stay at the node, get the XIV clock app and visit the game every ~30 minutes when your phone rings

do that 4 times a day and you are finished

That's easy to say if you don't have kids and/or a full time job.

[ServerCollaps]

I would be surprised if your kid wont survive without 1 min of attention