This red scrip system doesn't seem very casual-friendly..

[OliviaBadger]

I dont think that semi-afking for 14 hours per week is a big deal, stay at the node, get the XIV clock app and visit the game every ~30 minutes when your phone rings

do that 4 times a day and you are finished

That sounds like fun

[Youkulm]

I would be surprised if your kid wont survive without 1 min of attention

I'm sorry but I don't think I should have to leave my young child alone in the bathroom during bath time ( you know how dangerous that can be when they're young? ) because OMG node... or get up in the middle of dinner with my husband who I don't get to see all day because.. OMG node. Clearly you are someone without very many obligations or responsibilities... so I'm just going to consider your "point" moot.

The point is the grind isn't even borderline ridiculous. It is ridiculous.

You're entitled to your opinion to not thinking the new system is garbage but suffice to say you have an incredibly unpopular opinion. That is all!

[Aeyis]

I dont think that semi-afking for 14 hours per week is a big deal, stay at the node, get the XIV clock app and visit the game every ~30 minutes when your phone rings

do that 4 times a day and you are finished

Ofcourse. Because casual players have the time to afk at nodes. Yeah its not like they have something better to do like play the game, or have a life.

And 3 (up to 6 times) per hour is actually quite a lot considering that you also have to travel to each location and most people like to you know, play the game.

[Neophyte]

This 66 weeks make me lol everytime, cause there will be about 3-5 patches released then. So you're just saying 'I can't get BiS with all crafters until next patch? But i wanna '

yeah, so casuals may not get their weekly cap and may have not so much gear fast. So what? Speaking of gatherers in 2.x casuals could wait 70 minutes for 2 attemps resulting in 0 of the 99 needed hq-things cause bad RNG and no Furier-gear.

And i'm glad that i can have a bunch of gil of those rushing players, cause i myself dont have the need to BiS asap before next patch.

[WolfyTeemo]

Point it out if I'm wrong:

We get 450 script a week, which is , 45 favor item ;
When using each favor item , it will be 15-minute gathering work;
In order to max out the value (not missing any node , gather as fast as possible), one should keep focused in these 15 minutes;
Which means we need to do about 11 hours' focused gathering each week.
I know many people out there can do this while watching a movie or something. I'm not arguing . For me i want to do it as focused as possible.


Now this may not look like a problem for full-time gatherers. But, casual ? Huh. I wonder how many people who have a life and want to enjoy other parts of the game , can manage this.

And yup, i forgot to mention they need all those hours to sit out their weekly script first.

[ServerCollaps]

And 3 (up to 6 times) per hour is actually quite a lot considering that you also have to travel to each location and most people like to you know, play the game.

2 times per hour, if you gather 6 nodes per hour you are done in 4 hours? makes it even more casual friendly

whats the deal about doing rl things (isnt that casual?), go to your pc for less than 1 minute once your phone rings, go back to rl business

it takes nearly zero time and zero effort to reach 450 red scribs
you dont even have to play the game to achieve that, just afk on one spot, no travel times or anything involved. Just that 1 minute of minor attention during one hour

[gzuscry]

It's actually VERY casual friendly. It's not friendly to people who want to rush through gearing crafters up, or people who raid/farm/level a lot because they probably wont have the time for it.

With a bit of teamwork its still doable reasonably however.

This system they implemented is known as a "Free to Wait Gaming" Except this time there is no cash shop items that reduce your wait time. I dont know, maybe japanese get their kicks clicking like robots every 30 minutes, and they paid it for too 'yo 'now, so it must give them pleasure. But to general world wide population this system is a cash shop system they did not subscribe to, so it will reflect one way or another, but they gonna reap what they sow, thats how it always was and will be. If they think FF fanboy'ism is enaugh to pull that shit like its some exclusive delicassy then pls someone give 'em chopsticks.

[Aeyis]

2 times per hour, if you gather 6 nodes per hour you are done in 4 hours? makes it even more casual friendly

whats the deal about doing rl things (isnt that casual?), go to your pc for less than 1 minute once your phone rings, go back to rl business

it takes nearly zero time and zero effort to reach 450 red scribs
you dont even have to play the game to achieve that, just afk on one spot, no travel times or anything involved. Just that 1 minute of minor attention during one hour

There seems to be some confusing to how unspoiled nodes work.

-In order to actually mine a node you need full (600, 700 in the case of folklore) GP. You also need to travel to the nodes which takes time.
-You also need to actually have the time to gather from a node, as due to GP regeneration and travel times you lose additional time that you cannot craft, or do anything else in the game that is not related to gathering.

It took me quite a few hours yesterday (and this morning) to cap red scrips.


You mention afking at a spot, but that only works if your a) around to afk there, while b) for some reason you have the game open but are not actually playing it; as if you were playing it you wouldnt be able to afk for no reason.
And finally c) it would also reduce your rate of scrips to a measly 32-48 per hour, which means you it would take you 10 to 15 hours of pure afking each week.

Im sorry, how exactly is this casual friendly? Do casuals have the time to go afk for 10 hours per week?

[gzuscry]

All in all this game start to becoma as a smartphone mmo, everything is so gated that i feel soon they gonna implement smartphone api to log in for daily gatharing and crafting. As thing are going I feel that it simply cannot be justified to have this kind of grind on full blown pc graphics engine. If i have PC game running i want it to have my full attention on not some through the eye corner clicking like some browser game.

[DarkmoonVael]

Agreed. It seems to push people into having all gatherers leveled to actually be able to get the red scrips without dedicating all your ingame life to getting red scrips. I am just using FSH at the moment to get my red scrips, and whilst it doest have strict timetable that miners and botanist have to get their scrips, it has RNG in abundance.

It is made even harder by the fact that blue scrips are slow to get on FSH, consistent kind of, but slow. So much time just to do something you like......sigh.