Quote Originally Posted by Kaizersan View Post
Just pointing clear cut facts that people get better as they experience the same thing over and over this is no different.
And I pointed out that this "clear fact" wasn't relevant to the discussion because the situations people described were that switching away from AST immediately made the run a great deal easier.

They didn't say, "I switched to WHM and then after the DPS finished getting their crap together, we cleared it." They described it as an IMMEDIATE change, not a gradual one.

Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
Well you have to remember though that the people completing Savage now, that can only clear it with healer dps, are doing it undergeared. They should otherwise not be in there. When you have better gear - the point at which the average player decides to go in and try Savage - then it'll be a different experience. Yes it'll be easier than it is now, but that's by design.
Very true, but assuming everything will scale at roughly the same pace, AST is going to continue to be in dead last as a healer in the overall benefit they bring to a raid.