Crafting is dead

[DarthBuzzer]

You spent 20m to level 3 classes to 60 and gear them? >.>

I spent 5m and maxxed all gatherers/crafters and made the amount already back by selling random stuff (and got all master III books 2 weeks in 3.0 just with CUL)

But yeh, the prices for materials that are only needed to craft more crafters equip are... well only one word describes it well: ridiculous at this point

*sigh*

I spent 60 million from 50-60 and managed to hold Server First and Server's only Grandmaster for 4 days running. I made it back almost 4 times over due to my investment.

[Alahra]

You spent 20m to level 3 classes to 60 and gear them? >.>

20M for 2, actually. It was about 10M to get ALC to 60, though that includes getting enough scrips to get the Adept's set, and I was doing a lot of leve burning early on when materials were still rather expensive (and ALC unfortunately doesn't have many cheap turn-in options). WVR's leveling portion was cheaper (perhaps 5M), and then it was around 5M to get the gear at 60 that I couldn't make myself.

My assumption with ALC was that the 10M would easily be made back providing potions for raids once Alexander was released. I didn't know at the time that the potions were dropping from treasure chests, though. I was livid when I got the Master book, looked at the prices and saw they were selling for about 1/4 the value of the materials.

[Wizel]

Cooking is the way to go, with savage progression you can sell food pretty easily on the market. I plan on spending scrips to get the main hand cooking/gathering tools and using profits to afford the off hands if they ever become available which will in turn make those three things easier to do.

[Raves]

Holy crap. I have 6 of 8 at 60 and I *might* have spent 750k gil. And that includes buying NQ junk off npc vendors to get the last half of 59 to 60 for 2 of them by leves.

That is just insane money.

[Alahra]

Holy crap. I have 6 of 8 at 60 and I *might* have spent 750k gil. And that includes buying NQ junk off npc vendors to get the last half of 59 to 60 for 2 of them by leves.

That is just insane money.

Server economies can be pretty wildly different. From what I understand, Diabolos is within the top 5 richest servers (and I believe we're one of the most dedicated crafting servers, too). Granted, since ALC was my first craft, that increased my necessary investment by quite a bit, since those stupid books always need 4 or 5 mats from other crafts. That got to be rather pricey for scrip turnins to unlock the Master III book.

[Leafont]

I think I'm just going to sit out of crafting for this patch until they fix things.

[Synestra]

Especially since it is not only hypocritical to take that stance but also ignores the fact you could become rich yourself selling to them and then buying any you cannot craft yourself with that gil.

Well said. And this is excatly what im planning to do with both crafting and gathering, im not planning to go top-tier crafter myself as i already know those that will go for it so i just ask them to craft whatever i might need in future. If anything i love how hard it is to get materials atm as it means prices will be dirty high for long time and i like the sound of that €_€

[GunnarWolfram]

Its more than the prices though. Its the fact that the prices do not justify the end goal. Why spend millions of gil to get gear that will allow you to craft items that are simply good for glamour, but in addition are locked behind another gate. If these items were viable in the market we would probably complain about the grind but be more accepting. The end is not justified by the work required.

[scarebearz]

They wont be 10mil each when you need in effect 30 (300 scripts) to make some items.

Nobody is going to be paying 300mil for the mats to attempt to make 1 robe HQ lol.

You'd be surprised. The massive megacrafting FC conglomerates will drop that kind of cash likes it's nothing if it allows them to jump ahead of everyone else. They will either be 10mil each or no one will dare sell them in the first place.

Well I have around 2300mil and I think the prices your talking about are insane. lol

I main BLM and I'd not spend anything close to that for temp upgarde.

[Aeyis]

Well said. And this is excatly what im planning to do with both crafting and gathering, im not planning to go top-tier crafter myself as i already know those that will go for it so i just ask them to craft whatever i might need in future. If anything i love how hard it is to get materials atm as it means prices will be dirty high for long time and i like the sound of that €_€

You wont once youve actually gone through the full effort required just to make one item.

You cant just ask people to craft items for you anymore, because their weekly materials are limited. Currently in my mind making someone a crafters i170 is the same as making them a thavnarian dress, for free.