Crafting is dead

[Jade-Nephrite]

Doubling or Tripling the amount of scripts is irrelevant, I was able to cap both Crafter / Gather Red Scripts in 3 hours, granted I saved a bunch of Adamantite from the week before and I made 30 Noble Gold.

My issue is with the insane time-sinked and RNG based Gathering Favors. I did 2 Tokens worth and got 18 Blue Ooid & 31 Bladeleaf... so I spent 2 & 1/2 hours gathering and I can't even craft 2 materials, which is like 1/2 a body piece. I just don't have 11.25 hours a week to gather, and even at that I might not get what I need due to RNG, this is what they need to fix!

[Katlyna]

I'm absolutely furious at the new design. First everything costs way too many scribs and the scribs ARE NOT JUST TIME. They require considerable materials to generate in the first place. Next even after you have the scribs, if you want to trade for materials for every single batch (for a SINGLE freaking leather/cloth/wood etc) you have to acquire 10 additional Oids and 10 of a gathered material.

WHAT THE @#$%#%#$%. Who in the @#$%#$ thought this was a good design.

[Nylisa]

so i need blue ooid for animal fats , searched Google to see if anyone knows anything (not that i could see) , went up to page 10 no one knows anything , so i said ok i sacrifice my own progress and be the lab rat and go check myself then share the results on forums ,i spent my one week work on favors and still have no idea how to get them because i didn't have enough info or red scrips , dont even want to think about bladeleaf or rest of them , its RNG inside RNG,inside RNG,that is gated behind red scrip cap :|
this is getting out of hand , their methods and their solutions its getting too complex and stupid!

Stop whinging, all this "I'm gonna unsub because it's too hard" rubbish, so unsub, go play Minecraft, If the game had no challenges it wouldn't be worth playing. I don't understand you people who pay for a game then moan it's too hard to play. It's like buying a car then complaining to the manufacturer that it's no good because you haven't learn to drive.

you either dont know whats going on or you are not a crafter ,i dont see a challenge here , all i see is waiting , nothing but waiting for next week and weekly reset , nothing is difficult here , all i see here is bunch of new items with no hint on how to obtain any of them , you are suppose to go and find it out on your own only to see you dont have enough resources and have nothing to do until next week and another chance to try ,that may or may not work .to hell with it im even ok with waiting for weekly reset , i just hate how im runing around hours per day having no clue on how to get what i want and search google for hours to find a slight clue!
this is not difficulty or challenging at all! i dont even know what to call this ^^

No it's more like being a great driver, with a great car, except you suddenly have no wheels and you have to sit there on your ass for weeks while the tires get changed.

he summed up my post into one short line :| i salute you sir /salute /bow

[Jade-Nephrite]

^^^

Blue Ooids can be found at the lv 60 Mining Nodes in the Dravarian Hinterlands, the nodes that have Hard Silver Ore. The way it works is that for every node you deplete there is a small chance that a "Concealed Node" will appear, you will receive a notification kinda like when you sell an item on the Market Board. You won't have to uncover the Blue Ooid on the first try, it be visible, gather the Blue Ooid and deplete the node by gathering the Clusters. Then move onto the next node. On average you're supposed to get 4 rare item per Favor.

A small trick is to deplete 4 of the 6 surrounding nodes to just 1 hit remaining , activate the Favor then collect from those 4 nodes. You'll save yourself the time for 12 - 15 swings. Run the clock out completely, even if you deplete the last node with 3 seconds to spare and the concealed node appears, it will not vanish when the time runs out

[Jethero]

Everyone brings up very good points against this system, and it is indeed the endless waiting, RNG inside RNG, and an unrewarding journey that is mauling us.

I believe, for my part and some other mastercrafters I know (three of whom have quit due to this debacle), the sheer satisfaction of searing our name into the Master Craft monstrosities is our endgame. Sure, we can turn a hefty a profit after, but I'm convinced that a lot of this is for making all of our own gear out of pride and love for crafting. Gil is just another boon.

At this moment, the vast majority of us don't even have access to enough materials to even attempt the full synthesis for the 2* items. There aren't even enough ooids on my MB to make the processed mats. I started on Folklore and favour myself, and it's as infuriating as I've been told it is.

Edit: Incorrect comparison of crafted gear sets removed. I was looking at the NQ crafted versions of DoH gear, and then mistook them for the gear you get from Red Scrip turn ins. Apologies.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Might want to double check that, Jethero ...

Chimerical Felt hat HQ : 62 Control
Hammermaster's hat NQ : 3 CP, 62 Control
Hammermaster's hat HQ : 4 CP, 70 Control

Chimerical body HQ : 199 Craftsmanship, 62 Control
Hammermaster's body NQ : 3 CP, 199 Craftsmanship, 62 Control
Hammermaster's body HQ : 4 CP, 225 Craftsmanship, 70 Control

Serpentskin gloves HQ : 62 Control
Hammermaster's gloves NQ : 3 CP, 62 Control
Hammermaster's gloves HQ : 4 CP, 70 Control

Chimerical legs HQ : 62 Control
Hammermaster's legs NQ : 7 Craftsmanship, 62 Control
Hammermaster's legs HQ : 8 Craftsmanship, 70 Control

Serpentskin Shoes HQ : 62 Control
Hammermaster's boots NQ : 7 Craftsmanship, 62 Control
Hammermaster's shoes HQ : 8 Craftsmanship, 70 Control

Each HQ piece is clearly an upgrade over the Chimerical Felt/Serpentskin set.

[Jethero]

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Yes, you're entirely right. I was comparing the crafted 2* normal quality instead of looking at the HQ versions. I actually made two mistakes. I will correct myself, thank you.

[Katlyna]

I posted all the optimal melds on http://xivdb.com/
Basically you max control/CP and drop in one craftsmanship IV materia into everything to get the optimal stats. The exceptions to this rule being rings, chest, mainhand and offhand.

You can look at my gear here:
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/R59U

Note the set listed there does not use V materia, and is BIS for everything except Chest/Main/Offhand (which you can't max). This puts me at Craftsman 722, Control 700 and 402 CP. The extra CP is for a very specific macro which basically lets me macro craft new one start items HQ.

[Katlyna]

But you are right the melds are really aggressive. You could skimp some and do heavier mainhand/offhand melding. But that doesn't make sense as they are not shared.