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  1. #131
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    He comes into every AST thread and complains about people complaining about AST because it'll make SCH not as godly.
    Who are you referring to?
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  2. #132
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    Eudyptes's Avatar
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    They're definitely nice buffs, IMO.

    Lightspeed went from pretty much useless (except for quick raises or Stoneskin) to a 25% reduction in mana and no gimping of the healing spells.
    Spread being available outside of combat is awesome as you can saved the card you want for a future battle, before you even enter the fight
    Shuffle cool down reduced by 33%.
    Best of all - TP and MP refresh cards that can be used on anyone - beats bards having to sing for a DPS reduction or NIN being unable to Goad themselves
    They are nice but not great. The buff to lightspeed was significant, but lightspeed overall still isn't that great of a CD. Especially when you consider it's one of the few CDs we have. It's useful for when you need to be mobile, but otherwise the mp reduction is a drop in the bucket considering the 2.5 min CD it's tied to, and the CD itself adds absolutely no extra healing.

    The spread buff was a nice QoL buff, but adds nothing for when in combat.

    The shuffle cooldown reduction was utterly worthless imo. It doesn't address the issue with shuffle at all, which is that you have the chance to burn an entire CD to get absolutely nothing accomplished. 90 sec or 60 sec means jack when you get the card back that you were trying to get rid of.

    CU still has all the same issues it had before.

    Now, the ewer/spire changes imo were absolutely great. Imo, the one true buff to the class today was through these. I now feel like no matter what I draw I will draw something useful, with the exception of too many spears too close together.

    Note: My opinions are based on spending the last 5 hours healing alex, so I'm not just basing this on patch notes or something.
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  3. #133
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    SuzakuCMX's Avatar
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    Peach Parfait
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Who are you referring to?
    ckc22. Everytime I've seen him post in an AST thread it's to tell people to stop whining and that you can't make AST as good as SCH.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    ckc22. Everytime I've seen him post in an AST thread it's to tell people to stop whining and that you can't make AST as good as SCH.
    Oh ok, good

    At first, I thought you were talking about me.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Oh ok, good

    At first, I thought you were talking about me.
    I would never insult you, my love.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  6. #136
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 60
    I think some of you folks are forgetting that Collective Unconscious and Celestial Opposition as well as Lightspeed are supposed to be situational spells.

    Not something used in a rotation.

    Not something used on CD.

    *Situational*.

    That's probably why they're not making them as awesome as you want them to be.
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  7. #137
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    Emil Lacroix
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 60
    In summation:
    Nocturnal is still terrible. Don't use it.
    Lightspeed is not an "emergency heal", it's a free heal every 2.5 mins. Or a "I need to move and heal this DPS that stepped in stuff at the same time, and I don't have ED, and I don't have insta-Benefic II because I cross-classed Cure like an idiot, and the other healer with all their fancy off GC heals is asleep" thing.
    Don't cross-class Cure. Don't do it.
    Spear is still pretty much useless, but we're ignoring that.
    New Ewer/Spire is nice. Yay Ewer/Spire.
    More praying to RNGjesus.
    Srsly, can you just add the crit bonus to shields already?
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    Last edited by FaizeD; 07-22-2015 at 05:26 AM.

  8. #138
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    Danielle Leclair
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    I think some of you folks are forgetting that Collective Unconscious and Celestial Opposition as well as Lightspeed are supposed to be situational spells.

    Not something used in a rotation.

    Not something used on CD.

    *Situational*.

    That's probably why they're not making them as awesome as you want them to be.
    Remember one ilm punch?
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  9. #139
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    Drafus Thicc'rod
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    Faerie
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    They did how ever somewhat fixed the mp issue wich was one of the most important things.. Nocturnal and healing potency needs buffs yeah, and shuffle should never draw the same card you just put back in your deck.

    People can't expect SE to give astrologian a full class job tweak in a week. Give it time. They heard you and they will keep working on it.
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  10. #140
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by mp-please View Post
    Remember one ilm punch?
    Which what? Assuming MNK, which I don't play(nor have any interest in honestly).

    And comparing healer situational spells to any other role spells/abilities is stupid. Apples/oranges. IIRC, they outright stated they were going to be situational.


    Lightspeed is not an "emergency heal", it's a free heal every 2.5 mins. Or a "I need to move and heal this DPS that stepped in stuff at the same time, and I don't have ED, and I don't have insta-Benefic II because I cross-classed Cure like an idiot, and the other healer with all their fancy off GC heals is asleep" thing.
    What the actual hell? What does cross classing Cure have to do with Enhanced Benefic? If you're talking about replacing Benefic with Cure, only morons would cross class Cure and then not use Benefic at all.
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