This patch dropped the ball hard

[Lewtskie]

My problem is they added the ability to get the Doman upgrade items with Law tomes....yet it costs double the tomes for the upgrade item then it does for the armor/weapon?! The fuck? Law gear is outdated ithree times over, why is the price so high? Alex Normal(190), Esoterics(200) and Alex Savage(210).....upgraded Law gear is 180. ..................WTF?

1. They still want to make Hunt credits the Optimal Choice, just now not the only choice.

2. It takes the Doman gear regardless to get the item levels to even enter Alex, so getting it all upgraded means better performance.

They don't design any gear farm to be that quick and easy, not by most normal person's standards. Everything is designed with a limit and a lockout because this game is not designed to be played 24/7 with the "fast as you can, sleep when you're dead" mentality. That is a death sentence for most MMOs.

[Nekodar]

I don't know where to begin with this, it's almost like they didn't learn. Nobody wants a 450 cap limit that takes month to gear toward, subsequently not everyone wants to do the hardest content available to upgrade said gear. With the fact that 190 gear JUST came out 2 weeks ago no one is even fully geared with that yet, the game is too flooded and too restricted in my eyes to be enjoyable. I don't know how anybody else feels, but to me this is a subscription breaker.

We can do it another way... Get unlimited tomestones but be restricted in what is available to buy each week instead... With items being added over time.
Week 1: nothing
Week 2: Body
Week 3: nothing
Week 4: Legs
etc.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Just out of curiosity (as I'm not at home and can't log in), but what is the cost of the Esoterics gear and weapons? I'm just guessing it is in the same range as Poetics was, i.e. 825-850 for a body piece, 400 something for gloves/boots?

[Xyth]

I'm not saying it's logical, but that's the way it's just is at this point. This new patch has a cap on Esoterics, a cap on the new raid. Let's say (just hypothetical), Person A already capped out for the week on Saturday, and has nothing left to do. Well Person A could endlessly farm Law, and because he is able to do so, they put a high amounts on upgrades etc.

When everyone say you have to grind for stuff in this new patch, they weren't kidding. Everything that doesn't make sense in this patch is full supported by the grind.

[Ayanno]

I started this game a few months ago, and never had to deal with a cap. By the time I hit 50, I could do stuff for soldiery, which didn't have a cap. It was a fair upgrade to the gear I had.

Upon seeing this new grindwall they've added, I just shut it off. I never had to deal with that before, so maybe that's why it was such a turn off. Minimum of three weeks to get the tomes for the weapon? (445 x 2 = 890, and the weapon is over 900). Gearing up in this stuff appears to take literally months. There's a similar wall on crafting. That just sounds extremely not-fun. I don't want to login daily to slowly log progress towards a weapon that'll I'll get after dutifully grinding for three weeks.

Maybe the game was always like this, but it was never the game I played.

It's always been like this with Tomestone gear. It's fine, if annoying to continue grinding Philo.....Myth....Damn, I mean sol...No? Poetics?...............Oh! Law! Yeah, that's....now Eso? /sigh Ok then.

For weapons, you could just wait till the 3.0 relic quest starts.

[Sapphic]

SE are such trolls with this.

Will take 3 weeks to get the esoterics weapon, during that time you are getting 190 upgrades from Alex normal (and maybe trying Alex savage). 3 weeks you have your Eso weap, 2 weeks then for the chest....

So how are they pointless?

Also, GL doing Alex in 160 gear...

[Nekodar]

Just out of curiosity (as I'm not at home and can't log in), but what is the cost of the Esoterics gear and weapons? I'm just guessing it is in the same range as Poetics was, i.e. 825-850 for a body piece, 400 something for gloves/boots?

990 for weapon (can't recall for pld, but 990 total for sword and shield)
825 body/legs
495 head/hand/feet
375 belt/accessories

Proportions between each type is the same as for law gear, but with a higher base.

[Ayanno]

Just out of curiosity (as I'm not at home and can't log in), but what is the cost of the Esoterics gear and weapons? I'm just guessing it is in the same range as Poetics was, i.e. 825-850 for a body piece, 400 something for gloves/boots?

Same as all other current-at-the-time Tomestone gear.

[NorthernLadMSP]

990 for weapon (can't recall for pld, but 990 total for sword and shield)
825 body/legs
495 head/hand/feet
375 belt/accessories

Proportions between each type is the same as for law gear, but with a higher base.

Awesome thanks! I'm guessing the Eso weapons don't need any sort of dumb drop from Alex to purchase them?

[Nekodar]

Awesome thanks! I'm guessing the Eso weapons don't need any sort of dumb drop from Alex to purchase them?

Looked like tomes only. Just like for law weapon.