AF Gear and alts

[Themis]

Yup, the armory system and the way they set up gearing your character in this game has contradicted itself since 2.0. Doesn't make sense to me either.

Only if you assume "can play all jobs" to be the same thing as "can play all jobs and have the same best gear for all of them at the same time". They're both very different things. Nothing has contracted itself unless you throw one into it.

It's not like buying a single piece of Esoterics gear locks you out of the other jobs until you finish. You can play all of your jobs whenever you want to: that's what the system is about. It isn't about being the best geared with everything in the space of a few weeks (that's how MMOs keep you going).

You have to make the decision about which jobs you want to focus on. You can either focus on a single one and pour all your time and resources into that or spread yourself out and gear up several at the same time.

[Averax]

Ya'll need to slow down and think.

Gearing takes a long time, but it is also your primary goal at this point.

Would you rather accomplish this goal in a week and be done with it, or take a long time to do it, and have something to do for a while.

(also think which one is the better business practice.)

Could a system be added where it makes it more alt friendly? Yes.

[Crankysorc]

Ya'll need to slow down and think.

Gearing takes a long time, but it is also your primary goal at this point.

Would you rather accomplish this goal in a week and be done with it, or take a long time to do it, and have something to do for a while.

(also think which one is the better business practice.)

You wouldn't be done with it in a week if it was how OP asked for it. And a lot of people wouldn't cap for ALL their classes every week, so it'd still take several months to finish every class.

[Orbiaus]

You wouldn't be done with it in a week if it was how OP asked for it. And a lot of people wouldn't cap for ALL their classes every week, so it'd still take several months to finish every class.

Yup, which is why I asked for it in the way I did. I doubt people would even achieve the grind required to do them all easily. It will still take time.

[Tsunenori]

Why are you in such a hurry to gear up?

I'm not in a hurry, I'm a multi-classer and that's the unique thing about this game that keeps me playing, and it's the back-of-the-box feature that was touted so heavily to entice players like me. From the outset of 2.0 and onwards however the actual design has been contradictory in how limited players like myself are in acquiring (and storing!) the gear we'd like to get, and for me at least that causes a decent amount of stress in trying to plan out upgrades.

Ultimately frustrations of players like me are just handwaved and dismissed by comments like this, or by people saying "you don't need it." And that's not wrong, because it's really not required to have BiS all the time to be effective as a player. It is, however, nonetheless annoying to feel artificially limited for 6+ months at a time from getting what you'd like (even just for vanity) because of the low caps and high costs.

I'm not quitting over it anytime soon because I'm still having fun, and I actually like that there's a decent amount of gear variety right now, but I do hope they eventually ease up on their content gating in the future or I can see myself deciding I'm not enjoying the way it's implemented. It's not about "having" to do it, it's about wanting to and enjoying it. I wouldn't be quitting once I had my gear; I'd be moving on to the myriad of other long-term goals I want to accomplish.

Edit: To include, before someone tells me, that yes I know the gear will eventually be available cheaply. I tend to plan my purchases around jobs I play heavily first and vanity second. I don't feel limited in the ability to acquire the gear because eventually the tomestones required rain from the sky and there are plenty of ways to get upgrades. I just sometimes get grumpy about the time restrictions.

[Iromi]

Only if you assume "can play all jobs" to be the same thing as "can play all jobs and have the same best gear for all of them at the same time". .

I did. In 1.0. So...yeah.

[Natashio]

I'm not in a hurry, I'm a multi-classer...

The thing is the comments made by "these players" are mostly from people that only have played mmos that have you restricted to one class only. When presented with an mmo like the Final Fantasy's they can't seem to find the logic in having multiple jobs/classes geared up.

So to them if gearing up fast looks to be bad for the game and throw out those comments that if people gear up fast..then there's be nothing to do.. So I doubt that if tomes where restricted to classes, which I believe was thrown around on some threads years ago, will be a big cause for concern of people unsubbing.

[Tsunenori]

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Indeed. And as I said, it's not like you're prevented from doing anything due to not having Esoterics gear. My ability to play and my ability to acquire gear and do content I want to isn't severely hampered by this system. I'll get what I want eventually. It'll just be, for me, less fun in the long term for it because of the rather severe time limitations.

I apologize if I come across as kinda harsh on this in my original post. It's a bit of a sore spot heh.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

I do think the prices for Eso gear needs cut in half. Not anything else though.

[Kiara1]

I'm not in a hurry, I'm a multi-classer

Weell, currently you have Alexander Savage which gives you tokens and a chance for loot
You have the new tomes
You can also get ilvl 190 from alexander easy

There are lots of ways to gear up alts.
I agree a little bit with you about having multiple classes, but this is how the games been always.
Thats why I have 3 characters, so I can, when I have the time, gear them all up, instead of just one job