I'm tired of hearing about bots

[Ragz]

This ^ .

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[PrettyPrincess]

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OMG YES .

[HiirNoivl]

Actually the boards complaining about bots aren't all that common. This is because of the sheer amount of people who do it/have done it. If botting weren't so common, you'd see a lot more posts about it and its effects on the game, oddly enough. However, because it IS so common, it's more popular to ignore the problem and address something else such as the server/client relationship or manlier swimsuits.

[SirEdeonX]

It's hard when they don't even google "ffxiv bot" and demand the closing of all the sites providing them. I think this should be the first step - to cut the source.

Second of all, analysing the existant bots and launch a patch that would rend them useless.

Last but not least, have 1 GM per server for like, 1 day a week, travel through all the camps and cities to check for bots.

[TheVedis]

It's hard when they don't even google "ffxiv bot" and demand the closing of all the sites providing them. I think this should be the first step - to cut the source.

Second of all, analysing the existant bots and launch a patch that would rend them useless.

Last but not least, have 1 GM per server for like, 1 day a week, travel through all the camps and cities to check for bots.

they cant do anything to the people making the programs, those people are their own entitity
they can only do something to the people using them


personaly, rmt arent what im mad at, its the so called "legit players" who arent rmt who use these programs, and then prance around like they dont(im talking damn near a whole ls who promotes doing it on besaid, and ive caught doing it several times with several of their members)

[Vackashken]

Yes, I was saying BS to the idea bots don't hurt anyone. Friggen absurd. I feel like only a person who bots could utter such ridiculous tripe.

[Seif]

RMT is the last thing they should worry about.

[HiirNoivl]

Move along nothing to see here... right? I wouldn't so openly question the motives of other posters, but I find it odd that FFXIV is not as vociferous when it comes to rampant cheating as some other forums I've been on.

Here's what happens here. Player A sees B, C and D botting. A sends a report on B, C, and D. Nothing happens. Player A complains and finds that the community doesn't care about bots either. Player A decides to bot too.

Next thing you know, handling cheaters becomes a tough decision. Just like at the release, they cut a break to cheaters who exploited the SP on DoM classes because there were so many of them. The Playerbase begins to believe that if enough people break the rules, the rules will bend in their favor.

[Dubont]

Yes, I was saying BS to the idea bots don't hurt anyone. Friggen absurd. I feel like only a person who bots could utter such ridiculous tripe.

people have a very skewed vision of what bots really are. Bots don't directly hurt anyone:FACT. It is up to the user to decide how the bot will be used.

Example: a user decides to use say....a crafting bot to make his own crystals that he needs for certain things. He is not going to sell these crystals. He is not directly hurting anyone.

Example 2: A user decides to use a bot to grind out 100 stacks of crystals/shards and only sells them. This person is directly hurting the economy by flooding the market.

point: User 1 made an appropriate decision. User 2 made a poor decision and this is the person that 99% of the game population sees all botters as.

Besides...all games have botters and they haven't gone away yet. There really isn't anything you can do other than make the game so incredibly bad that the "bad" botters don't even want to touch it.

[Rinsui]

Example: a user decides to use say....a crafting bot to make his own crystals that he needs for certain things. He is not going to sell these crystals. He is not directly hurting anyone.

Ouchouchouch. You definitely didn't pass the economics exam, did you?
If he illegally acquires his crystals, which he otherwise would have had to buy just like anyone else, he gains an illegal monetary advantage of exactly the same amount as if he sold the crystals for cash in the first place. Basically he's printing forged money.

Besides...all games have botters and they haven't gone away yet.

they re-grow like a bad rash, that's true. But constantly cutting them down at least ensures they don't crash the economy completely like they did in FFXI. Until all of a sudden, SE decided to mass-ban thousands of them without as much as a warning in 2004.

I still remember the day when half of the endgame linkshell leaders suddenly and silently disappeared, hahahahaha!!!