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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracosavarian View Post
    Snips.
    A few things I would like to point out to you:


    First thing first, your explanation was outright atrocious, and gives only the basest understanding to the mechanics. It does not include how to handle the mechanic, it does not include how specific roles handle mechanics (Tank soaking, heals standing far-south to make sure the butterflies are not in front of the boss, sword positioning, prey mechanic and how to handle it, where to bait orbs to, how to pick up the double prey mechanic, etc etc.)

    Basically, your description, whcih took less than a minute, was so aweful that you would lead to more confusion than anything else. It also doesn't mention even a little of how to handle specific liberations.

    It could take me upwards of 5-10 minutes to type a proper, role-appropriate description. -_- When they could just as easily look at a video. Though, to be fair - bosses of dungouns won't be this bad, and will be MUCH simpler. I think dungoun bosses are far more tolerable than Extreme Primal bosses, and for that reason - I think different approaches are necessary.

    Edit-In #1:: I would like to add (thought about this after) that typing speed is also very much a thing. My typing rate is rediculously fast, although at times in terms of the English language it fails a little bit in being consise and to the point, or gramatically may be confusing. However, even still, someone typing the same thing as me can take upwards of two to three times as long to type it. On the flipside, someone with a faster typing rate than me might well be able to type it out in half the time (Not sure how fast people can go. I've seen Starcraft players man. Never doubt those fingers.)

    For EX primals/raid, I think a video or text guide is mandatory. There's too much to describe and you are basically wasting everyone's time when you don't bother to watch a video. In the time it takes us to get in and explain it, one can initiate a vote kick of you. That basically should show that it's too much time to have to wait because one person was inconsiderate of 7 other people's time.

    For dungouns/etc, I think explaining things is fine. In part, this is because I think there's a slight element of surprise to meeting the boss at the end of a dungoun, getting to encounter them... It's like the old-school battle screens, when they shatter at a boss, there was always a sort of anticipation and glee I got from seeing them spawn. XD

    ...

    I do, however, feel there is something to address. I feel you very inconsiderate of other's feelings on time. I feel you to be very uncaring for other's perspective on what they find fun, favoring one specific party with a very clear bias. Why is it that someone who wants to get in, and get to something quicker should be treated with any less regard than someone who clearly doesn't care enough to do a little bit of legwork?

    Effort. This is the defining factor between someone who has watched a video, and someone who just says "First time, new here, tell me what I need to know." One is a very entitled mindset, expecting things to be done for them within the client of the game because... Reasons? There's not even a good reason for it.

    Now let me go further with it - why couldn't that same person, during the que time, go and watch the video during their que? Why couldnt' they be bothered to do something that would take them "No more than 5 minutes" (just like typing) to assist the party? Why is it ok to be self-considerate only if it is a learning and not anyone else?

    In my opinion? We are all part of a team. But everyone having this mindset of 'gimme gimme' instead of 'how can I help the party' is where the issue comes from. People like myself will explain things - bujt really. Please come, try to understand that the same word - arrogance - can be used to define someone who expects and explanation without doing anything themselves (And sometimes moreso)

    The same people think they don't /need/ a video, because they are skilled [I guess?] enough to get by with a text description (Inflated sense of one's own abilities) and this often proves wrong.

    The same people think they don't /need/ to be told anything and lead to a wipe (Same definition as above)

    The same people think they deserve to have things hand delivered to them (inflated sense of one's own worth) because they are new/a special snowflake, and they shouldn't have to do anything.

    To me, Arrogant is a perfect word to define someone who expects a text description to be handed to them if they're going to ask for one.
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    Last edited by Eidolon; 07-20-2015 at 04:26 PM.