Unjust Kicking from Alexander T4

[Madsamurai]

One alternative would be to queue into Japanese groups if your latency allows. More likely not getting into an elitist and toxic group if you are comfortable in a japanese group. Just make sure to quickly read up the fight mechanics at least.

[I_Punch_Bees]

If those who are 'vets' get tired of explaining something, I hate to see how miserable they are IRL.

[Sapphic]

If those who are 'vets' get tired of explaining something, I hate to see how miserable they are IRL.

Thig is, their are players happy to explain fights in indepth detail, they then proceed to post them on the internet where they are accesible to anyone and everyone with an internet connection. Which you can read at your own pace, instead of expecting some random player to type it out inside DF, Putting an unnecessary burden that they do not have to oblige to.

I go in blind, when it isn't the first week of release with friends who also want to go in blind, and we learn it together. But if it was dated content then I would put in the small effort to research the fight and then if I'm not sure about a mechanic, I ask for clarification from someone who has done it. Then I would go in. A party, whether it's a static, party finder or Duty Finder isn't just about you. You are one cog that if all operate as they should, it works. Learn to be a team player and think of the other members before joining. Instead of just yourself. Think of how you want them to be, and be that way yourself. If you want/expect them to teach you, use the resources available and teach yourself.

I don't explain when taking a new person whos part of the FC. I'll let them try blind, then guide them if they fail to understand certain mechanics. But most of the work will be their side, not mine. I'll also do that with a new to FFXIV player in DF. I'll give them benefit of the doubt that they aren't lazy and just give hints where I think they could improve to guide them to being a better player.
I have no tolerance for players who are arrogant and refuse to take advice, lazy who didn't even read ability tooltips and those who queue for content they have zero knowledge of whilst picking a language they cannot communicate in. Those kinds of players are selfish and their attitude is all wrong for team based content.

In other words, make an effort, put yourself in the shoes of those you expect to teach you everything first.

[Ymal]

If those who are 'vets' get tired of explaining something, I hate to see how miserable they are IRL.

/long rant because that seems a bit too judgmental

I'm one of those person that get tired of having to explain, first because no one else ever does it and second simply because English isn't my native language.

Someone is new? Tank asks for tips? Np I'll try and give small phrased indications (ignore adds/lots of aoe/face boss this way/etc) but having to explain a whole raid turn? My case is special I know, as I personally can't know the mobs/boss/abilities name in english, and my explanation can usually seem vague with my wonky english, but that's the best I can do and it will never be enough for something like A4. So even if I wanted to type for minutes to help someone who was too lazy, it wouldn't do any good in the end.

As others have said, if you join a long and 'difficult' duty and expect to be explained everything, you're probably going to be disappointed. And a party disband. Especially when it come to a more complicated turn of a raid. Imagining having to explain for 10 minutes a fight like A4 and taking the risk of doing it badly and being hold responsible because the new person didn't understood, just no. Go watch a 3 minutes video at least.

Any new person has the right to make mistakes and ask questions, but I'm not going to pull out a guide and resume it just because the person was too lazy to do it themselves.

TLDR; I often find myself having to quickly explain bosses to new people, but I'm more than probably not going to sit and type for 10 min and stress myself about a boss with many mechanisms when the person could have done it in three minutes outside of the duty. You want a blind experience? Ask friends/FC or use the PF.

[Nestama]

It still helps if people explain one important mechanic regardless.

/p Phase 1: OT grabs orbs. DPS can grab one (but be weary of RNG beam attack)
/p Phase 2: 1 = A, 2 = B, 3 = C. Unmarked DPS = Quarantined add (if Quarantined, <se.1> to let player know). Don't move if you have three tethers on you.
/p Phase 3: Healers stay away from party when you have Judgement Nisi debuff. Focus heals on tank after Discoid is cast.

Have that macro'd and you're set :T

[Stupiduglytaru]

What makes me laugh, on all previous content if you were a new player were to join in months after everyone said watch video etc, HOW DARE YOU GO IN BLIND! If you want to go in BLIND then do the content when its new, unfortunately "new" actually translates to the first 20minutes of the server going back up from content release.

[shape]

Who knows i'm one of those Vets and my reasons for rarely explaining tactics comes down to more then being fed up of doing so.

I know that my explanation of a fight is going to be crap in comparison to an online text guide quickly, even scanning an online text based guide would be better here is an example
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tldr_strategy/

Would I give the new player time to look up the information yes, it gives me time to eat crisps or drink coffee etc.

And can people please stop being bloody literal about posts when I say people have been making guides for games for long long long time, allot of people make it mandatory to at least learn about the content(I thought this was obvious)
try playing Warhammer 40k without reading the guides, the whole game is based around rules and guides( not the PC game the table top version)

Watching or even reading a guide will not stop you from messing up, in most cases. It does decrease the amount of time it takes to learn the fight, also in most cases

[Kiara1]

This is a huge problem in this game, but i cannot figure out a way to fix it.
If you don't do the things they release on day one people might be mad at you for not watching a video.

The thing is, the actual good players are the one that figures out mechanics on the go. The bad ones need to watch videos.
But in their eyes its "oh you didn't watch a video, you suck noob!"

People who have to watch a video to learn a fight are the bad players imo

[Stormrider]

I am not sure about content that has been added into other MMO's recently. But it seems 14 has the most instant kill/stay dead mechanics I have ever seen. Also has the most someone screws up it is a wipe mechanics. In the few other games I have played even when people are having bad raid nights they can not wipe a group like in 14. They can make it so you never see the boss dead but never the pure fail we feel.

[Lisotte]

I feel like anything in this game that even qualifies as "endgame" isn't really doable in a random DF. Totally doable if everyone knows what to do, but queue into a DF and at least half of the people will be clueless first timers. Because people who have already cleared it will be going into the "no law bonus" farms.

I find it funny, there's hardly ever any "learning parties" in PF, especially a couple weeks after release. There's tons of "clear" parties, but you join them and realise there isn't any chance of actually clearing it because a couple people have never tried it before and have no clue what they're doing.