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    The only value of PLD in the current game (which is about to change in three days) is to charge your Limit Break gauge faster.

    When you see claims that WAR can tank everything wearing full STR accessories and in their DPS stance and healers supporting that, you know that the PLD is broken when the producer of the game frankly tells you that low PLD dps is the job's identity.

    Make no mistake, the full VIT PLD is very valuable in the DF when you don't know what the healers and DPS are going to do. But in a static, it seems to be the consensus that you're just better off with a WAR. Anyone who talks about how important tank dps is and how healers have no trouble healing any tank in dps stance the full time, is necessarily saying that PLD as a job is completely unneeded and a hindrance to the raid.

    If you say tank dps is important yet play a PLD, you're wilfully gimping your raid dps.
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    Ryahask Lenaro
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    PLD is, and forever will be, the ideal MT. Don't mistake existing content for challenging content. Currently WAR is probably the best MT, but that's not due to an underlying kit that heavily favors MT (Nor is it due to extreme unbalance as I'm sure many will suggest), but rather because the current content is so unbelievably easy that all tanks are equally capable of MT and so as a result, "the best" defaults to the tank who can output the highest numbers (WAR). Most Savage statics will want a PLD as their MT initially and, by my guess, in the long run. If you're looking to MT then PLD is the right choice for you in challenging content. If you're not talking about challenging content it's completely irrelevant.

    I'm not sure why so many people here are suggesting PLD is bad. Their mitigation is unparalleled, they have the only valuable "ultimate" tank ability, and they have extremely good utility. I see no scenario where either a DRK or WAR would perform better as a traditional tank than a PLD, even when taking predominantly magic damage. That said, when players are over-geared, content is under-tuned or easy, or when optimizing damage output over mitigation, then yes, PLD falls off, but as a strict mitigation tank there's nothing that beats PLD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    The only value of PLD in the current game (which is about to change in three days) is to charge your Limit Break gauge faster.

    When you see claims that WAR can tank everything wearing full STR accessories and in their DPS stance and healers supporting that, you know that the PLD is broken when the producer of the game frankly tells you that low PLD dps is the job's identity.

    But in a static, it seems to be the consensus that you're just better off with a WAR. Anyone who talks about how important tank dps is and how healers have no trouble healing any tank in dps stance the full time, is necessarily saying that PLD as a job is completely unneeded and a hindrance to the raid.
    Except most healers, at least on the forums, are sick of deliverance war tanks. It might be because most of them are bad, but I'm 100% sure that healers do have a hard time healing str WAR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doudousteve View Post
    Except most healers, at least on the forums, are sick of deliverance war tanks. It might be because most of them are bad, but I'm 100% sure that healers do have a hard time healing str WAR.
    umm... basically every tank out of their tank stance pulling large mobs.
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