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  1. #1241
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    I suspect you're right about this. Unless someone is conspicuous in their behavior (i.e. talking about it in game or somewhere that can be associated back to them), I'd guess they have somewhere near 0% chance of getting a ban.
    WOW. I take it he never actually said he was buying right? He just used that "friend" euphemism to get around that?
    He never said that he was buying but we all knew, he had already paid us 20 mil that night but his item didnt drop lol
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  2. #1242
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amiaze View Post
    According to their updates, they do ban the accounts.
    But are they banning "subscriber" accounts or "free trial" accounts. That's the active thing to look for that isn't possible to discern from such posts.
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  3. #1243
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    Mog Champa
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    I'm a fairly new player but even I can see the serious problem this has been.
    It's more than just an annoyance, it's affecting the in-game economy and it seems
    like the plethora of cheaters in this game go unpunished.

    I love this title. I play nearly every day but it's becoming frustrating when I realize
    my legitimate ways of trying to earn profit are being hampered by bots and buyers.

    There's no way that this huge thread along with all the others are being ignored.
    That's too baffling of an outcome for me to accept.

    I will say though, that if this continues for much longer, as much as I adore this game, my sub will not.
    I'm tired of seeing cheaters reap rewards without any visible means of punishment.
    Just imagine when housing becomes available and all the buyers and bots snatch up eagerly awaited plots.

    The RMT problem is by far, the largest canker on this game and for the sake of SE,
    as well as the playerbase, I hope it's worked out before the fatigue of being honest becomes unbearable.

    /signed
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    Last edited by Giruvegan; 07-18-2015 at 11:59 AM. Reason: grammar brah


  4. #1244
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    Solarra's Avatar
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
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    Hope nobody minds me reviving this thread. I'm very lucky that there seem to be very few RMT traders on Zodiark. Even so, they are very disruptive at times.

    The reporting system is too cumbersome. It requires a lot of effort on the part of the player and having to type out the name leaves a wide margin for error. A lot of names seem to have been chosen to maximise the chances of mistyping; they are very long with weird letter combinations.

    Surely it would be possible to have a right click and report function that automatically records the name, the world and the message?

    Quote Originally Posted by Giruvegan View Post
    The RMT problem is by far, the largest canker on this game
    Agreed.
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  5. #1245
    Player Terribad's Avatar
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    Moxie Desu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    Hope nobody minds me reviving this thread. I'm very lucky that there seem to be very few RMT traders on Zodiark. Even so, they are very disruptive at times.

    The reporting system is too cumbersome.
    Right click>Add to blacklist.
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  6. #1246
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    Solarra's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terribad View Post
    Right click>Add to blacklist.
    Well, doesn't that just hide them from me and allow them to continue? Or am I missing something?
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  7. #1247
    Player Terribad's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    Well, doesn't that just hide them from me and allow them to continue? Or am I missing something?
    Well your complaint was that it requires a lot of effort and the player can misspell the name. With the method above that eliminates both of those problems.

    I don't know if you've ever played an mmo before but RMT will ALWAYS be a problem. SE is very well aware of the fact that RMT is in game. They've gone through a lot of measures to hinder/prevent RMT (even though it mainly effects the players)
    It's not an over night process. It's like a place that's heavily infested with roaches. For every 1 roach you see there's hundreds more behind the wall.
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  8. #1248
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    Stoping RMT is hard, yet who says you couldn't make it harder for Bots?

    Changing Opcodes
    Packets Changing (I'm pretty sure the one who developed these Programs sniffed Packets and uses them)
    Anti-Bot Monster (Spawns when you're 1-2 Hours in the same Area / Place (If you haven't moved at all, like Gathering Bots) as a Legit Player you are given a Notice to move or else the Monster kills you or teleports you into a Jail. (Automatic Process for Reviewing Bots / Punishing them)

    There is hundreds of Ways and yet, I haven't seen anything and the fact is, the Game Client is vulnerable, if they decided to add a Anti-Cheat Guard to it, it would mostly also prevent 3rd Party Tools such as Parsers, Radars or whatever exists out there.
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  9. #1249
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terribad View Post
    Well your complaint was that it requires a lot of effort and the player can misspell the name. With the method above that eliminates both of those problems.
    I don't know if you've ever played an mmo before but RMT will ALWAYS be a problem.
    Sorry, looks like I didn't make myself clear. My issues are these: reporting is cumbersome and requires a lot of effort from the player and if the player makes a mistake, that effort is wasted.
    I do play other MMOs. I don't think RMT is ever going away but making it easy for players to report such activity would help. WoW for example has a really simple Right click and report system.
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  10. #1250
    Player Terribad's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    Sorry, looks like I didn't make myself clear. My issues are these: reporting is cumbersome and requires a lot of effort from the player and if the player makes a mistake, that effort is wasted.
    I do play other MMOs. I don't think RMT is ever going away but making it easy for players to report such activity would help. WoW for example has a really simple Right click and report system.
    Ah I see what you mean. Yeah I don't think there's any easy way to report, like how it is too block. I apologize I misunderstood your original post. But yeah I agree the report system isn't easy to use or even find.
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