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    They are busy making it looks pretty
    The funny thing is, they probibly spend alot of money on gear design. This would actually have people hold on to particular pieces of gear because of the bonus they give for at least a little bit, Might even save SE some money on gear design since they wouldn't be putting so many models out so much >.>
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    Raxx Daini
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    OP has some valid points and I can understand where he's coming from but I dont think stats are what this game needs to give it variety. I think just giving more things to do besides grind for gear in raids would be nice. I would like to see some more open world stuff happening and some open world dungeons would be pretty cool as well.
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    What worries me is that Yoshi's philosophy is to play safe. Is this what we have to look forward too five years down the line? Grinding for tombstones of generics for our ilvl 560 gear just so we can then enter the next raid in order to get our hands on the ilvl 565 gear?
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharmacies View Post
    What worries me is that Yoshi's philosophy is to play safe. Is this what we have to look forward too five years down the line? Grinding for tombstones of generics for our ilvl 560 gear just so we can then enter the next raid in order to get our hands on the ilvl 565 gear?
    the players want this, soooooo why give them something they don't want?
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAXX View Post
    OP has some valid points and I can understand where he's coming from but I dont think stats are what this game needs to give it variety. I think just giving more things to do besides grind for gear in raids would be nice. I would like to see some more open world stuff happening and some open world dungeons would be pretty cool as well.
    I totally agree with you, open world stuff would be awesome. Open world dungeon you can go down into, with monsters that require a party to kill that is NOT a fate with a boss that drops a piece of unique gear that isn't just an ilevel upgrade would rock..
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    the players want this, soooooo why give them something they don't want?
    Who wants just this? I haven't seen a single person disagree with anything in this thread, if there is someone that wants to just grind tomestones for generic gear i'd like to hear a reply from them. Even diablo 3 had unique gear. I just want the devs to see this thread, that's all. so they know we don't want to be force fed the same thing for the next 5 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcux View Post
    Who wants just this? I haven't seen a single person disagree with anything in this thread, if there is someone that wants to just grind tomestones for generic gear i'd like to hear a reply from them. Even diablo 3 had unique gear. I just want the devs to see this thread, that's all. so they know we don't want to be force fed the same thing for the next 5 years.
    there is only 10 players in all? the majority of players want this.

    you know the ones playing the game not caring what's on the forums because they enjoy it.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    there is only 10 players in all? the majority of players want this.
    you know the ones playing the game not caring what's on the forums because they enjoy it.
    Your right, but do you think those people that did get unique stuff would be upset that they did?
    Se is on the ball with the looks of the gear and some of the sets are amazing. Otherwise we wouldn't have glamours!
    I see people going, oh, i need to get gordian stuff next, because it's ilevel 190 over 180, then i'll just glamour it to look like my current.. Off the top of your head, without looking, can you tell me what stats the gordian black mage chest piece has on it? do you care? no, because it's the highest ilevel. you know it has Vit, you know it has Int.. that's all that matters..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    the players want this, soooooo why give them something they don't want?
    It would be foolish to think people are just going to eat up the exact same thing year after year. That simply isn't how humans work...

    People are fine with it now because this game really isn't that old, but eventually the constant copy and paste approach to progression in this game is going to hurt the game in the long term. Heck, if I asked people who I got to try this game why they stopped, I think I can safely say the the gear progression system in this game will certainly be one of the top reasons. It is one of the most frequent complaints I see leveled at this game, from people who quit and people who are still playing, and sadly Heavensward did nothing to change that, so far...

    People will eventually get tired of the same thing year after year, if the developers don't spice things up it's going to have a negative impact eventually.
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    It doesn't really change anything aside from having more "trap" gear. Someone will math out the absolute optimal pieces and everyone with sense will aim for that. People that fail to meet those criteria will be shunned.
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