SCH vs AST?

[Zari]

In most content I have been parsing as astro much better than the sch's I've run into, and that's including their fairy. But I believe this is more of a skill problem, skilled sch's are few and far between, but the good ones will trump astro by a good bit. Whm are truley a powerhouse right now, in Alex fights lately I've been around 1400-1500 HPS on astro where whm are 1500-1800. Sch for has been around 1000-1100 (300 being fairy) then whatever shield mitigation added in.

You should not use hps to determine how skilled a SCH is since the shields dont count. That SCH could be doing much better than the other two but it wouldnt show that on a parser because the shields, which are a huge part of SCH, dont count towards it

[Krixus]

Yes I mentioned that.

[AlexanderThorolund]

I mained SCH since I started FFXIV then I switched to AST and I've never looked back. Ive only ever ran into 1 or 2 occasions where I've had to throw myself a hi-elixer. It takes quite a bit of patience to get into the groove of playing AST. I understand fully how new AST have MP issues.

It comes I think from playing SCH, when your MP pot felt endless so you could do what you want, when you want. With AST it's all a bit more reserved and casting at the absolute right moments. Precision is key.

[o3o]

I mained SCH since I started FFXIV then I switched to AST and I've never looked back. Ive only ever ran into 1 or 2 occasions where I've had to throw myself a hi-elixer. It takes quite a bit of patience to get into the groove of playing AST. I understand fully how new AST have MP issues.

It comes I think from playing SCH, when your MP pot felt endless so you could do what you want, when you want. With AST it's all a bit more reserved and casting at the absolute right moments. Precision is key.

That's kind of an issue though. The job is much less forgiving for no reward at all. It doesn't even buff the party as well as a sch does for meeting dps checks in the long run.

[o3o]

Atually lets talk about this....

What does an astro do better than a sch?

Because it can't heal as well.
can't dps as easily.
and buffs are kinda iffy because you can't really count on rng. Good buffs on astro sometimes being few and far between.

[Krixus]

Atually lets talk about this....

What does an astro do better than a sch?

Because it can't heal as well.
can't dps as easily.
and buffs are kinda iffy because you can't really count on rng. Good buffs on astro sometimes being few and far between.

We have the heart of the cards. But really, you want to talk about the same thing this forum section has gone over endlessly.

[Khyan]

Nah with spear on LA, CO to add 5 more seconds of refresh, and self ewers I feel I have better mp management than I did on my whm in 2.0. I guess maybe some don't utilize thier options which might cause worse mp issues. But my comment was very realistic, I even leaned towards saying astro is worse than the other two, what do you all want to hear lol.

Please can you be impartial? Everyone loves AST there, its flaws are real.

Who cares that the ast can heal the current content? Everyone knows.

When reading your posts it seems you believe that the ast has nothing wrong and it's the perfect job. But it's wrong. Even if it's your opinion it's heavy, all the time, to see the same arguments that have already been opposed by most players.

[Akyio]

SCH vs AST?

Imagine being a SCH. But having weaker heals/shields in general, having atherflow with triple longer cooldown, and having 1 lustrate every 40 seconds or so. And imagine having no fairy next to you. But having some cards that are very random, and in the best case with best combination still are below mediocre, that's how it feels being AST with nocturnal.
Its fun as hell but most of abilities need adjustments or complete rework

[NorthernLadMSP]

Please can you be impartial? Everyone loves AST there, its flaws are real.

He can't. He believes AST is perfect and that anyone who feels it has shortcomings that need to be addressed by SE is a "scrub."

[Rajeme]

How about we move to the other topics cause this matter has been discussed again and again and again and now I remembered every single point you guys made already...

And maybe refrain from making such topics before doing some research first.