Goodbye Battle Regimens

[Arcell]

And we say that people don't like BR because they don't know how to use it because the only argument is the waiting time. You just don't have to wait, if you're waiting your party is doing it wrong. Organize yourself and communicate with your party (damn it's an mmo, you HAVE to communicate -.-) untill you get a nice timing.

@Zanfire: SHIFT+skill if using the keyboard, emote instead of select on the skill if using the gamepad, only one person press an extra button to release, I really don't think the execution can be made simplier...

Exactly. Honestly if the party I'm with is lagging on timing with BRs I just tend to start giving them timed ultimatums. Starting BR, 10 seconds and I'm activating it. This tends to get people to respond much more quickly Otherwise though if you communicate with your group it's very easy to get these done in less than 5 seconds.

Also now with auto-attack being "stuck" in BR mode isn't even as big of a problem. You can still use your auto-attack and move in BR mode.

[Perrin_Aybarra]

Exactly. Honestly if the party I'm with is lagging on timing with BRs I just tend to start giving them timed ultimatums. Starting BR, 10 seconds and I'm activating it. This tends to get people to respond much more quickly Otherwise though if you communicate with your group it's very easy to get these done in less than 5 seconds.

Also now with auto-attack being "stuck" in BR mode isn't even as big of a problem. You can still use your auto-attack and move in BR mode.

Maybe for a melee this isn't an issue, I'll give you that. An archer or a mage on the other hand just waits there like a fool until it's executed. Even if it's a 5-10sec wait, it's still 5-10 too long of doing nothing while maybe the tank needs a cure.

@Alcide, if you read what I said, I do not defend FFXI's SC nor do I attack the idea of the BR system. I like the fact that it's very flexible and the various effect it has. What is clunky and very unituitive is the way we have to execute it. It's not a matter of communication nor of understanding the system. It's a matter of execution.

Like I said, a 5-10 wait is still too long. I like how SC were executed and I don't see how it could not be applied to the BR concept when it comes to initiating and closing a BR.

Edit: Like you said though in the post above, BR is not perfect and could be improved which is exactly what they are doing. What's the point in arguing and defending it when it does need improvements.

[Alcide]

Edit: Like you said though in the post above, BR is not perfect and could be improved which is exactly what they are doing. What's the point in arguing and defending it when it does need improvements.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a perfect system, I think it's really poor in combinations and gets boring after the "WHOOOOA DAMAGE!" thing, but still the foundation is easy to teach, easy to understand and easy to perform.
I think that with the correct tweaking it has the potential to be a much more interesting and intuitive system than SC. I know they're changing it and that's a good thing, but I hope they're gonna fix and improve it rather than scrap it and go back to SC.

I think this has to be sayed since everytime they try to fix something they just scrap it >.>

[Perrin_Aybarra]

I think this has to be said since everytime they try to fix something they just scrap it >.>

I must give you that. I too hope they come up with a BR 2.0 and not a copy/paste of the SC system (was fun in FFXI but they can give us something else now in FFXIV)