Alexander loot systems sucks :/

[Lothar808]

Welcome to the internet. You could give out free money and people would find something to complain about. This is just the appetizer. I can't wait till they release epic alexander. Most people complaining about how the content is to easy will start complaining about how it is to hard.

I'm sure that probably only 10-20% of people clearing Alex normal will ever clear Alex Hard. That being said, the current setup of normal and hard at least gives everyone a taste of the end game content and might create more interest in the Hard version. My wishful thinking is that it helps bring more players up to par on end game content and skill level, or at least it will make them want to attempt to get there.

[Kona_Nightwind]

I'm sure that probably only 10-20% of people clearing Alex normal will ever clear Alex Hard. That being said, the current setup of normal and hard at least gives everyone a taste of the end game content and might create more interest in the Hard version. My wishful thinking is that it helps bring more players up to par on end game content and skill level, or at least it will make them want to attempt to get there.

I completely agree with you.

[Ophie-Mio]

Alright those people who are complaining, question for you? Did you run Coil? T1-T13? If you did you know what the alternative is right?
4 weeks, no drop for your job, 12 clears no weapon drop, etc...

Yep, all of coil, including when SCoB and FCoB were relevant content. The alternative is what they are presenting for Savage Alexander. I can complain though when I'm fighting RNG in both instances and it comes out awful.

How many times did the same item no one wanted hit the floor?

Not often. My static has a full up group that level everything and gear up every job. Very rare was the time that something dropped to the floor.
It's better but it's not perfect.

This system is too much like pony farming. Find a group that can clear, deal with the RNG of the drops, then deal with the RNG of your lot, and then deal with the fact that you hate the seven other people who are all dealing with the same crap as you.

And I mentioned this earlier but our static doesn't consider this raid content. It's more akin to WoD for us. So we do more DF than actual static ones or PF. >_> When it's DF, it sucks more.

[ckc22]

I'm sure that probably only 10-20% of people clearing Alex normal will ever clear Alex Hard. That being said, the current setup of normal and hard at least gives everyone a taste of the end game content and might create more interest in the Hard version. My wishful thinking is that it helps bring more players up to par on end game content and skill level, or at least it will make them want to attempt to get there.

My problem is that even if I'm interested I don't really see a way to get into a group for it.

[Lothar808]

My problem is that even if I'm interested I don't really see a way to get into a group for it.

Which is understandable. Hopefully though, with the new loot system, statics will be less of a needed element for end game raiding. Also, the more people that are interested like you, but think they cant get in a group, will actually make it easier to build more groups.

[SonTensei]

Yep, all of coil, including when SCoB and FCoB were relevant content. The alternative is what they are presenting for Savage Alexander. I can complain though when I'm fighting RNG in both instances and it comes out awful.

One big difference between Savage and Normal is that you wont be able to DF it and people that can actually beat it will be way less than Normal.. lastly you and your static can work out a drop system to make it better than random guy A in a party finder

[senjyo]

stop farming in Duty Finder. Put up a Party Finder or get some friends together to farm. Make at least a token effort to work within the loot system and give it a decent shot before complaining that the drops aren't being served up to you on a goddamn silver platter.

How hard it is to understand it doesn't matter what kind of group you are in "stactic/DF/PF" all doesn't matter, it take average 40+ run to have enough shaft drops for 6 people (that's assuming 2 of the other don't need the chest). Yeah, it seems pretty good odd that each clear has 66.6% chance for 1 shaft to drop, but after u factor in the rolling against 6 others plus you need to repeat the same process 4 times , you will see it take way more runs to get specific item than old system.

Better know your stuff before you white knighting for no reason. If this system is actually "better" than the old one, u wouldn't see this kind of thread has 20 pages + replies to it.

[WinterLuna]

If this system is actually "better" than the old one, u wouldn't see this kind of thread has 20 pages + replies to it.

And before you start white knighting, not all of the responses are agreeing with it.

[Selli]

I like the loot system we have for Alexander a lot more than what we had for Coil and even CT.

Back when 2nd Coil came out, it took me 8 months to get the healer chest from t7.

That's running it every week since it came out, that's farming it for hours a day after the nerfs and it was made farmable. Now I can easily go get my loot from Alexander in a day or so. I am perfectly fine with this.

[senjyo]

And before you start white knighting, not all of the responses are agreeing with it.

You don't have to agree, but it doesn't change the fact that there are lots of people actually see the problem of this new system and debate and dicussion are being exchange. I don't see a thread like "Daily roulette suck, please delete the system" gone above 5 pages beside the obvious troll attempt and nonconstructive replies such as the quoted one.