Turning DRK into a tank was a huge mistake.

[Sapphic]

If you want to understand the value of vitality I urge you to attempt T1 to T5 without echo in ilvl 70 gear (or T9 in ilvl 90~100 gear without echo).

Because 30 vit in ilvl 70 is around a 10% increase in HP, which is quite a significant increase, @50 in ilvl 130 as tank, 30 vit is closer to a 5% increase in HP. So at ilvl 70 it's more useful than wearing ilvl 130. Now we are at 15-20k HP, so the percentile increase is even less for those vit points. Even with the extra points to spend from 51-60.

In other words, as HP gets higher the returns from vit gets lower and STR gets higher in comparison.

[SuzakuCMX]

poot.

Ok but it's about 3k HP difference in STR accessories vs. HP accessories.

[Sapphic]

Ok but it's about 3k HP difference in STR accessories vs. HP accessories.

Was talking about the bonus points, not accesories. Best thing for accesories is Vit ones melded with STR, or STR ones melded with VIT so you get best of both worlds.

[SuzakuCMX]

Was talking about the bonus points, not accesories. Best thing for accesories is Vit ones melded with STR, or STR ones melded with VIT so you get best of both worlds.

Nobody anywhere mentioned attribute points that I can see.

[Sapphic]

Nobody anywhere mentioned attribute points that I can see.

You didnt see, just look at the post above the one of yours I originally quoted.

[SuzakuCMX]

You didnt see, just look at the post above the one of yours I originally quoted.

Just wait until savage everyone is going to switch back to VIT again until they overgear the content and switch back to str that's how this whole str accessory business started in the first place. I honestly hate it because its breeding bad habits in DF. This is how its like in my eyes.

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Unless you meant the post that started the quote chain:

I'm running with my Paladin in almost full str accesoirs (one ring is vit) and there was not yet any content in which i thought of it as inappropriate (that said I'm talking about after reaching lvl 60 and having full ilvl170/180 armor).

[Noxifer]

Nobody anywhere mentioned attribute points that I can see.

Well... I'll help you.

Because 30 vit in ilvl 70 is around a 10% increase in HP, which is quite a significant increase, @50 in ilvl 130 as tank, 30 vit is closer to a 5% increase in HP. So at ilvl 70 it's more useful than wearing ilvl 130. Now we are at 15-20k HP, so the percentile increase is even less for those vit points. Even with the extra points to spend from 51-60.

I bonus allocated 15 STR, 10 VIT, 5 PIE because of MP regen. Most all of equipment is VIT focused, but I put a STR ring on to help out with damage. My level 50-60 points have been VIT, but will be STR on the last few points.

So yes. People have most definitely been talking about bonus points as well, not only accessories.

[SuzakuCMX]

Well... I'll help you.





So yes. People have most definitely been talking about bonus points as well, not only accessories.

Sorry, I was only looking in the quote chain because that's what she responded to.

[Noxifer]

Sorry, I was only looking in the quote chain because that's what she responded to.

Yeah, I hopped back through it, then scrolled up one or two posts from each, like she'd mentioned (since I wasn't sure which post in the quote chain she was referring to). =) It's not always easy to find things when you need to read back. I don't even want to imagine how difficult it would be if I still had the posts per page at the default settings ^^;

[Stanelis]

Because 30 vit in ilvl 70 is around a 10% increase in HP, which is quite a significant increase, @50 in ilvl 130 as tank, 30 vit is closer to a 5% increase in HP. So at ilvl 70 it's more useful than wearing ilvl 130. Now we are at 15-20k HP, so the percentile increase is even less for those vit points. Even with the extra points to spend from 51-60.

In other words, as HP gets higher the returns from vit gets lower and STR gets higher in comparison.

Depends on how much the relevant content will deal in one go (content is balanced around tanks EHP), in T5 you didn't have a single point to spare at ilvl 90 if you wanted to survive to every contingencies (eg bad RNG stroke with AOE and stuns). Also it is known that T10~T13 has been more lenient on tanks.