Is SE doing anything about these FATE botters?

[SonTensei]

SE needs to make leveling your 2nd or 3rd job in HW better/easier
Its sad that the fastest way to level is by spamming fates in a 2.x zone.
I stopped after leveled 2 60's i cant do more even though i want to play the other jobs because its very slow/boring & not fun.

Maybe that is why people choose to use bots, maybe they want to play more than one job but do not want to do the fates/100x same dungeon.. Also the fact that the level 50 dungeons give no xp is a joke too!

I heard from a friend it takes 3 days (about 60 hours) with a fate bot to get 50-60
So, if SE made it so you can get 60 faster than that by playing the game I don't know why people wouldn't just play.

Also to make the assumption that a person grinding up levels is also using tools to make money is a very broad ranged assumption. I think some people do that, for sure.. but you cant assume everyone does.

[ZhycranaDranix]

Dude Tonberry NT is full of BOTTERS

[ZhycranaDranix]

I hate the whole ''Fate Botting Isn't Hurting Anyone Argument''....

Are you a Fate Botter ? Because you'd have to be delusional to defend this.

Example: My static told me I was going to heal in 3.0, HW drops I level my SCH to 57 with all quest done before the decide to say oh can you switch to tank...... Its my static so I switch for the sake of saving us...... I grind by myself Churning Mist all the way back up to MSQ with dungeons etc etc...taking massive amounts of gameplay , time and dedication......

Someone else logs on to the game....Gets their Main to 56 while they actually play...clap*clap*
Then while they sleep they let their Bot get their ALTS up to levels.....

^^^ THIS IS BREAKING THE INTEGRITY OF THE GAME AND IF YOU CAN"T SEE THAT YOU"RE BECOMING PART OF THE POISON

[NoahArks]

There are alot of people using FATE botting apps to help them train up their char. Head to northern thanalan. Most of the people with chocobos are botters.

They all follow a directed path towards the FATE, one easy way to see the botters is with a FATE where you have to protect the NPC. They will all crowd behind the NPC.
(I know this is not enough evidence to tell they are botting, but if you look long enough it becomes clearer)

Oh damn I must be a botter, since I'm leveling my chocobo while I lvl myself.....

[Altena]

In all fairness, I kind of don't blame them. I mean grinding FATEs is mindless and boring. I grind while I watch movies, barely even looking at the screen most of the time.

The real problem here is that EXP content like FATEs are just far too faceroll / mindless that a bot can actually complete a FATE to begin with. The underlying problem here is not necessarily the fact that people use bots - but more the fact that the content is easy enough for people to use them. Attack the problem at the source and it is a much lesser issue than trying to remedy it by simply banning accounts. A bandaid fix such as a ban just doesn't work in the long term.

[ZhycranaDranix]

Oh damn I must be a botter, since I'm leveling my chocobo while I lvl myself.....

In all seriousness you can literally tell who's botting or not.
Look @ the players , they pretty much look like mindless drones, stopping on a dime at the same location etc etc. Not fast pacing to other fates etc.
It's hard to ''spot'' them because their are players doing actual fate grinding there but they are the ones doing the normal fate grinding stuff

..Leaving fates early
...Figiting their characters a bit while waiting
...chatting
...repairing
....etc etc

It was weird seeing people in my own FC not logging off for hrs at a time and seeing their char. at 60 and shit and now im just pure disgusted with it.
I love FFXIV but this is just dumb imo , even if I wasn't a ps4 user I wouldn't utilize this....

[SonTensei]

I hate the whole ''Fate Botting Isn't Hurting Anyone Argument''....

Are you a Fate Botter ? Because you'd have to be delusional to defend this.

I understand where you are coming from, but if SE wanted to fix the issue, they need to make the leveling process faster.. at the end of the day when you have 10% of the subscribers using this tool, to ban them all would be cutting out way to much income for a game that is trying to grow... they need to triple or quadruple the fate xp in the new zones, maybe that would help the situation.

[melisande]

In all fairness, I kind of don't blame them. I mean grinding FATEs is mindless and boring. I grind while I watch movies, barely even looking at the screen most of the time.

The real problem here is that EXP content like FATEs are just far too faceroll / mindless that a bot can actually complete a FATE to begin with. The underlying problem here is not necessarily the fact that people use bots - but more the fact that the content is easy enough for people to use them. Attack the problem at the source and it is a much lesser issue than trying to remedy it by simply banning accounts. A bandaid fix such as a ban just doesn't work in the long term.

^ This. Make more options for SB/EXP. Make EXP chains something that actually matters again. Bring back the fun of grouping up and PVE EXP chains. Forcing FATEs down everyone's throats obviously didn't work out so well, and it's certainly showing in N than in this patch.

[ZhycranaDranix]

. they need to triple or quadruple the fate xp in the new zones, maybe that would help the situation.

Yeah GL Pandoras box has already had its top blown off

Players- Spend 3-4 hrs of my own time leveling
Or let my Bot do it

even if they do increase it , this has become the norm now ....

New areas wouldn't be touched still .....what they need to do to eliminate this is post lvl 52 you stop earning XP from NT fates....and that way you have to go to the new zone and guess what .....it takes a hell of a long time to move from A to B and if they aint flying their botting simple as that......

not sure if you can make your bot fly but hell that would weave out all of these FOUL PLAYERS

[SonTensei]

I.....what they need to do to eliminate this is post lvl 52 you stop earning XP from NT fates....and that way you have to go to the new zone and guess what .....it takes a hell of a long time to move from A to B and if they aint flying their botting simple as that......

not sure if you can make your bot fly but hell that would weave out all of these FOUL PLAYERS

Yeah or they need to reduce the cost of the 10 point leve to like 2 or 3, or increase the rate you gain leve points... there has to be a way to make it so people play through to level..