Probably not.
Probably not.

I thought it looked a bit better than when I last left the game (not saying a lot though).
I'm way more worried about the crazy gil seller spam, because gil sellers may be botting, but could also be account hacking or who knows what. And they undermine the game in a fundamental way, and little visible action is taken against them.
Doesn't seem like they care. The comunity reps never reply to these topics and reports never get a reply or you can't call a GM in game to show them the issue.
By the time they do anything people will be all lv60 and will only get a 1 week ban for it and that's a huge joke.
Tonberry saw a reduction in botters, still alot, but a reduction.
Used to be a huge mass in N Than, now its just a moderately sized mass, lol.
SE needs to very strict on Botting.
The thing with botting is that if players bot and they know they won't be banned, they tell there FC/friend.... Now MORE players will tempt to bot.
I I know bans will cause SE subscription. But if not dealt with the problem will grow exponentially, and in the end can cause 10s of thousands if dealt with or botting will be the norm.
The biggest problem is that the bot is made by the same people who made WoW's and that got so out of hand that people were using it for pve and pvp for perfect rotations completly breaking the game and what would be Frontlines in our game. With the outcome of having to ban 2 million people because of not doing it when it had to be done.SE needs to very strict on Botting.
The thing with botting is that if players bot and they know they won't be banned, they tell there FC/friend.... Now MORE players will tempt to bot.
I I know bans will cause SE subscription. But if not dealt with the problem will grow exponentially, and in the end can cause 10s of thousands if dealt with or botting will be the norm.
It's kinda how I am feeling to a point, why should I have to work to gain my clusters or items, level my alt classes when everyone else seems to be allowed to level up while they sleep. Of course I enjoy this game far to much to risk doing something like that but I do find it unfair a lot of these people have zero consequence to it. Even if they are banning people, they don't make it obvious who was banned in game to make the threat of being banned known. We just got a little thread that says X people were banned, yet we look in the server and still see the mobs running around and bots gathering.SE needs to very strict on Botting.
The thing with botting is that if players bot and they know they won't be banned, they tell there FC/friend.... Now MORE players will tempt to bot.
I I know bans will cause SE subscription. But if not dealt with the problem will grow exponentially, and in the end can cause 10s of thousands if dealt with or botting will be the norm.
Bottom line for me, let it be shown in the game that they are being watched and make people think twice about it. Would help deter to some point I'd wager.
Last edited by AlphaFox; 07-12-2015 at 03:30 PM.
You wanna know whats the real problem here? That it is so hard to level from 50 - 60. Not hard as in "I can't do this" but more as in "I don't want to waste my time for this". I'm working and luckily have a social life + other hobbys. I'm still working on my first 60 just because it takes the same amount of time to level from 50 - 60 as from 1 - 50. I don't find it the least enjoyable to run the same fucking dungeon for 10 time just to get a level up. In A Real Reborn leveling a class was a breese. I made constant progress and it "felt" like making constant progress. This was a very rare thing for mmos. Now its just "Ugh...just came out of Basilika and my progress bar has barely gone a step to the right at all".
I'm not botting right now (maybe I should?) but I can understand why so many people do it. Leveling from 50 - 60 is just no fun. And please stop saying that I have to take it. It becomes fun when I'm max level. Blah blah blah...if a mayor aspect of a game isn't fun then something went seriously wrong. Then what do I play a game for if it isn't for the fun I get out of it?
SE needs to make leveling your 2nd or 3rd job in HW better/easier
Its sad that the fastest way to level is by spamming fates in a 2.x zone.
I stopped after leveled 2 60's i cant do more even though i want to play the other jobs because its very slow/boring & not fun.
Maybe that is why people choose to use bots, maybe they want to play more than one job but do not want to do the fates/100x same dungeon.. Also the fact that the level 50 dungeons give no xp is a joke too!
I heard from a friend it takes 3 days (about 60 hours) with a fate bot to get 50-60
So, if SE made it so you can get 60 faster than that by playing the game I don't know why people wouldn't just play.
Also to make the assumption that a person grinding up levels is also using tools to make money is a very broad ranged assumption. I think some people do that, for sure.. but you cant assume everyone does.


Just curious... what exactly is wrong with FATE botting? I mean, they don't adversely affect you at all. There's already so many people there that the scaling maxes out, so it's not like they are making FATEs more difficult for you.
I personally don't bot at all, but there really isn't any negative affect on you when someone else does. The only kind of botting I can think of that would be detrimental would be dungeon botting and gather botting. Dungeon botting because it makes it harder to clear the dungeon and gather botting because it gives an unfair advantage to those who do it, since they can effectively gather 24/7.
But there's really nothing wrong with FATE botting. So why complain about it?
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