Is SE doing anything about these FATE botters?

[VarinaVashai]

Just curious... what exactly is wrong with FATE botting? I mean, they don't adversely affect you at all. There's already so many people there that the scaling maxes out, so it's not like they are making FATEs more difficult for you.

I personally don't bot at all, but there really isn't any negative affect on you when someone else does. The only kind of botting I can think of that would be detrimental would be dungeon botting and gather botting. Dungeon botting because it makes it harder to clear the dungeon and gather botting because it gives an unfair advantage to those who do it, since they can effectively gather 24/7.

But there's really nothing wrong with FATE botting. So why complain about it?

The ppl that fate bot are botting in other aspects of the game, spirit bonding, gathering items. the claim that botting odesnt effect others and there is nothing wrong is very ignorant. Botting has negative impacts on economy and community.

[Noxifer]

The ppl that fate bot are botting in other aspects of the game, spirit bonding, gathering items. the claim that botting odesnt effect others and there is nothing wrong is very ignorant. Botting has negative impacts on economy and community.

Not to mention they're levelling up without doing anything... Which means you end up with those high-level players who never figured out how several of their new skills/spells work....

[Xenos74]

Not to mention they're levelling up without doing anything... Which means you end up with those high-level players who never figured out how several of their new skills/spells work....

To be honest, this already happens with general players grinding fates in mass groups, and with A+S hunts already. Bumped into many a tank with full 180 asuran gear that didn't use any defensive cooldowns in dungeons, blm in similar gear using only fire 1 on group pulls, etc.

I do agree that botting is an issue, specifically the ones that have been used since 1.0 to level all crafting jobs to cap

[Kaedan]

The ppl that fate bot are botting in other aspects of the game, spirit bonding, gathering items. the claim that botting odesnt effect others and there is nothing wrong is very ignorant. Botting has negative impacts on economy and community.

I really hate people that don't read posts and think before they respond. Let me repost the section of my post that you quoted, that already covers that:

"The only kind of botting I can think of that would be detrimental would be dungeon botting and gather botting. Dungeon botting because it makes it harder to clear the dungeon and gather botting because it gives an unfair advantage to those who do it, since they can effectively gather 24/7."

So yes, I'm aware that some forms of botting are not cool. But none of that applies to FATE botting. FATE botting doesn't hurt anyone. And the response that "high level players won't know what they're doing" is not a valid reason because that's already true of anyone whose sole leveling activity is FATEs.

[Rufalus]

It's not justifiable. It's an unfair advantage. People are not meant to gain levels, gil, items, company seals without playing the game. As far as impact on legit players, the northern thanalan cluster of organised bots were destroying Fates too quickly for me to get involved, having a negative performance impact where I could not see/target the enemy mob due to it rendering too many player characters in the same position, and there being no down time when the zone is more quiet because the bots do not sleep.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

It's not justifiable. It's an unfair advantage. People are not meant to gain levels, gil, items, company seals without playing the game.

I know an MMO that had a unique trait of letting your characters (MCC system, you control 3 characters at the same time) stay at one spot killing mobs while you could go afk and sleep. You could also buy a gathering pet that would pick up all the items dropped as long as you had pet food in your inventory for it to be active. lol While that was the intended playstyle in that game, here it would be considered pretty unfair. That game is so broken... but super fun in end game XD.

[Odstarva]

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And yet you did not read the quote you just made? Or do you not know what spirit bonding is? It does mess up the market. Say what you will, even if it didn't hurt the game economy (which it does) it's an unfair advantage.

If you don't have time to level a second class then don't, if you do then do. If you don't and want to then the only option you have is to do it slowly. Such is life, tough luck, stop cutting lines and wait your turn.

[Kuroneko_Jutah]

Just to be clear we're not talking about the folks just plain old regular fate grinding in nthan right? Until they fix 3.0 Fates its the best place to go from 47-53. Some people stick around higher than that even.

[Cakekizy]

Personally, I see nothing wrong with it and think it would be a waste of resources to try and stop.

[Zfz]

The bots are not just botting fates, they are (and have been, since 2.0) botting quests as well. They bots can interact with NPCs, accept and report back on quests. All that gil from quests are dumped into the market.

In essence botting artificially increases the money supply and mob loot supply in the market (bot efficiency per real Earth day is many times that of a real player), which causes inflation and destroys many markets.

The often seen response to that is "hey you get to buy cheap shards and mats, wtf are you complaining about". That response shows complete ignorance of the fact that the game has gatherers and people who farm mob loot to sell. It artificially destroys many of the markets and funnels people into making money via other limited forms of activities.

Botting creates a skewed economy, chases real players away from certain activities in the game. Botting hurts the game as a whole.

The strangest thing is that teleport botting had been a thing since a decade ago and FFXIV is unable to block that. I really don't understand that. But I guess it's just too expensive in terms of processing power. It's cheaper to let part of the player population become irritated, but those who do are loyal customers mostly so it doesn't hurt the bottom line. I guess that's what's going through SE's minds.