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  1. #831
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    Ninjah2r's Avatar
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    Wing Z'ero
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by kyrios91 View Post
    If it's still in cd for a while then just use them.
    Yup agree on that, but yeah I should probably make a vid as Dervy suggested on the reddit forums to see where or how I lose my dps (IF I lose it, maybe the guy in my static is just too good of a ninja to outdps him lmao xD).
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  2. #832
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    KefL0's Avatar
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    Zero Fate
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    so is Heavy Thrust -> Impulse Drive -> Disembowel -> [Blood of the Dragon] -> Chaos Thrust -> 4th Tier Combo -> Phlebotomize -> True Thrust -> Vorpal Thrust -> Full Thrust -> 4th Tier Combo -> Repeat the best rotation that we can have? and do i just fill in the jumps?
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    Last edited by KefL0; 07-13-2015 at 02:20 PM.

  3. #833
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Thr biggest contributing factor to a lower encDPS is DOWNTIME. It doesn't matter if you know the rotation well. It doesn't matter if you've practiced it over and over and copying my videos, thendiels vids, the stuff in the OP or own opener.

    Downtime.

    Every second you do not attack is a contributor to a lower encDPS, which is the standard we use to measure raids. That's player skill, not your opener.

    The only thing that really makes a slight difference is if you learn x2 GK BFB and even I couldn't do it properly due to mechanics.

    Quote Originally Posted by KefL0 View Post
    so is Heavy Thrust -> Impulse Drive -> Disembowel -> [Blood of the Dragon] -> Chaos Thrust -> 4th Tier Combo -> Phlebotomize -> True Thrust -> Vorpal Thrust -> Full Thrust -> 4th Tier Combo -> Repeat the best rotation that we can have? and do i just fill in the jumps?
    Whatever it says on the OP, my friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by kyrios91 View Post
    2.4 GCD or lower is really necessary for an optimal DRG rotation. The Alex gears I wear lost me some Skill Speed and Godforbid you can keep up with mechanics while at the same time hitting that last second FnC / WT just because of a 0.3 SSpd difference )
    I'm personally at 550 SS or something (2.41 gcd). I just used some of that skillspeed food I posted a few pages back. Took me to around 2.407? Good enough.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 07-13-2015 at 04:28 PM.

  4. #834
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Eft Steak (vendor in Ishgard) and Roast Canard (3-star, but lots of people dumped their quest rewards on the MB) are perhaps not what I'd take to Alexander Savage but work great elsewhere as far as skill speed food goes.
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  5. #835
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    Ukitsu's Avatar
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    Miriam Bloodstained
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 59
    Quick question about the CDs usage: the order to use em makes any diff in the rotation? For example, after first HT we gotta go with BL+BFB, using BFB+BL results in the same or might risks in delaying our rotation? I use BFB+BL (since i just got to 52 last night) and noticed that i was delaying my FT combo a little by waving those 2 (for leveling i just use the FT combo).
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  6. #836
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    ColdestHeaven's Avatar
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    Seyrleen Cinderbraid
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    Ragnarok
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    Machinist Lv 80
    I think the main difference in BFB+BL against BL+BFB is that there's a chance you might not make the 9th GCD into BFB. Depends on overall SKS and latency of course - I know for sure that an even tighter window wouldn't work for me, so delaying BFB till the GCD recast is almost done is imperative.
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  7. #837
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Another odd thing I noticed was that BFB -> BL always clipped my GCD. I think latency has a thing to do with it, maybe their animations and how our skill queueing works may also have a thing to do with it.
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  8. #838
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    spelley's Avatar
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    Light Seeker
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Another odd thing I noticed was that BFB -> BL always clipped my GCD. I think latency has a thing to do with it, maybe their animations and how our skill queueing works may also have a thing to do with it.
    BFB + Battle Litany always clipped mine as well. For some reason I just assumed it was my latency but guess not?
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    Last edited by spelley; 07-13-2015 at 11:11 PM. Reason: Wrong skill

  9. #839
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    Ukitsu's Avatar
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    Miriam Bloodstained
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 59
    Yeah since i play with 200ms i usually clip when doing 2 oGCD, but sometimes it doesnt with PS + LEGs. With BFB+BL thou i never got it without clipping... Might be the animation since you guys play with way lower ping and still have this issue.
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  10. #840
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Precast BL. Only way to do it really. Negligible difference in damage.

    Do you get the same issue with IR + BOTD as well?
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