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    Pretty early to start asking, but what is a reasonable DPS to achieve in the new Alexander raid for the last boss? Best I've achieved is 955 DPS sustained w/i180 weapon, ilvl175 with an average of around 840ish. Time I got 955 I was only sucked in once and had double Dragoon for 2x Battle Litany duration.

    I've only started parsing stuff this week and just want to know what to strive for is all.
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    Okay. Given these stats:

    Skillspeed: 638
    Critical Hit Rating: 636
    Determination: 377
    DPS: 1226.983248

    Skillspeed: 0
    Critical Hit Rating: 827
    Determination: 377
    DPS: 1227.02418731662

    At 2.5 GCD, or 0 Skillspeed, you need 189 more CRT to break even. Or you could say that you need roughly 1.5* more Skillspeed to meet the equivalence of CRT on damage, at our baseline of full i190 stats.

    DET:CRT Item Budget is 1.04:1 if I remember correctly, so if we take those item budgets into consideration, we need approximately:

    Skillspeed: 0
    Critical Hit Rating: 720
    Determination: 481
    DPS: 1227.39713776695


    Or, +100 CRT and + 104 Determination to break even.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 07-08-2015 at 07:09 AM.

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    Marik Landzaat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Or, +100 CRT and + 104 Determination to break even.
    With the added benefit of better TP efficiency I'm assuming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavensSword View Post
    With the added benefit of better TP efficiency I'm assuming.
    going by the current design of the fights, most of the turns seem to have enough breaks that TP should not be an issue with proper invigorate usage, other than turn 2; so im not worried about TP efficiency tbh. even with 2.39 skill speed, i last around 4m20s or so
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
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    Well I'm not sure it's possible to have 0 skillspeed. Wearing nothing but a lance I have 428-74 (from the lance) so thats 354 skillspeed as a base?

    so the skillspeed comparison would be between 638 and 354 right?

    so i'm not quite sure what you're saying, but from your post it sounds like SS is just not very good?
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    Last edited by Outfoxed; 07-08-2015 at 03:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outfoxed View Post
    so i'm not quite sure what you're saying, but from your post it sounds like SS is just not very good?
    In other words, there's absolutely no way we'll be able to drop all of our skillspeed in favour for critical and DET unless you can find away to make it all back.

    The only exception is when you go for Ravana EX. You can then drop the i190 legs for the i180. (Idk ACC values for Alex Normal).

    So if you drop 100 skillspeed, you need roughly 50 Crit to make the damage difference back, 55 DET, or roughly an even split of CRIT/DET.

    And of course it's from 354 SS, lol. We can't go below that value. 354 basically is 0 as that's our base.
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    the more dps you do in t4 the more likely you're gonna get sent to the add room in the tunnel ;_;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    the more dps you do in t4 the more likely you're gonna get sent to the add room in the tunnel ;_;
    Ye, I always get sended in the tunnel with DrK..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    the more dps you do in t4 the more likely you're gonna get sent to the add room in the tunnel ;_;
    Certainly feels that way. Had my DPS up to like 1k and it threw me in there just in time to throw my just-applied BotD off ;_;
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaiiNx View Post
    Ye, I always get sended in the tunnel with DrK..
    It's always off-tank + 1 DPS
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