Machinist superior then bards?

[Snugglebutt]

The primary reason I will be dropping bard as my main is due to the fact I now have to spend 80-90% of in-combat time staring at 10% of the screen aka my shortcut bars because of what feels like the randomness of procs, so many oGCD and GCD's to juggle and manage, addition of cast timers on some ~yet not all~ skills through a rotation and no stable rotations after the initial opening sequence. It's not fun anymore for me being what feels like forced to play the game staring just at my shortcut bars 24/7 in order to effectively manage it all.

I guess others might enjoy it but I no longer do so I would rather play a different class as my next main instead. Positional classes are even less annoying than this as someone who also plays monk because at least on those your staring at your character, the battle and the boss to figure out when to move and use your skills more so than bard in which I feel like I am being forced to stare at a tiny bottom portion of my screen watching the skill refreshes, random procs, oGCD/GCD's plus cast timers all the time alongside having to micro-manage unreliable and always unstable rotations.

Maybe that's just me but that's how it feels to me and it is a change from how it used to feel without the 3.0 changes, but it's a negative new feeling from playing the bard. I do not know if machinist feels the same way though as haven't tried it yet.

[Greywolfamakir]

I do not know if machinist feels the same way though as haven't tried it yet.

Get max DPS is harder for MCH than for BRD, I think, MCH is a CDs-based Job, I mean, basic rotation 1-2-3 is pretty trash, If You are looking for high DPS, you have to manage CDs like Reload and Wildfire pretty fine, If You don't, MCH does really trash DPS.

[Tsilyi]

BRD has two DoTs, both can tick within a single GCD. If both crit, both have a chance to reset the cooldown. If you use BL during that GCD, you potentially have three uses of BL in one GCD. Which has actually happened for me before, several times. It's lovely when it happened before, but annoying now.

I'm not entirely certain you can use BL 3 times in one GCD without clipping into the next one. Two maybe if you're lucky, but I'm pretty sure 3 is pushing into the next weaponskill, so you're probably better off delaying that third one, right?

[Odowla]

dots only tick ones per 3 seconds so you literally cannot get more than 1 per gcd. its not possible in any circumstance.

if both ticks crit and reset BL then you actually technically lose 1 BL proc and thats why higher crit %'s are "worse" for bard dps

Get your BRD to 52, spam HS at the dummy, use the proc. See the problem for yourself before dismissing it. It is one of only valid complaints, not even QoL things.

first off titan ex isnt a reaction fight, lmao

second as i said, i've played on a bard with WM. I can go HS > SSproc no problem. I think you might be ..whats the word it.. bad? I'm not resorting to insulting peoples skill anymore but like.. i can get them no problem. if you're mashing heavy shot though you'll have the next one q'd (which you can't cancel) so ofc you'll miss the proc.

[RiceisNice]

dots only tick ones per 3 seconds so you literally cannot get more than 1 per gcd. its not possible in any circumstance.

if both ticks crit and reset BL then you actually technically lose 1 BL proc and thats why higher crit %'s are "worse" for bard dps

While it shows it as one counter, they still tick at two separate instances. Otherwise I wouldn't be getting double BL resets in 1 GCD on a single target boss back in FCoB.

[Odowla]

While it shows it as one counter, they still tick at two separate instances. Otherwise I wouldn't be getting double BL resets in 1 GCD on a single target boss back in FCoB.

Its uh. not possible. they don't tick at seperate instances. I know the situation you're talking about though - really its just your gcd lining up with the 3 second dot tick timer so it FEELS like it procs more often than that.

[RiceisNice]

Its uh. not possible. they don't tick at seperate instances. I know the situation you're talking about though - really its just your gcd lining up with the 3 second dot tick timer so it FEELS like it procs more often than that.

No? I've had it reset twice (as in, I can shoot off three bloodletters) in the span of 2.5s with a single target. And even if what I'm saying is wrong and you are correct, you'd still have those incidences where you'd have to delay your BL or another oGCD because of the reset combined with the 1.5 cast time

[Massterchef]

DoT crits are tracked individually hence the reason the crit % in even ACT will show different values for VB and WB.

If you actually played a bard this or last patch you would have noticed more than enough back-back BL procs.

[Sen_Terrechant]

DoT crits are tracked individually hence the reason the crit % in even ACT will show different values for VB and WB.

If you actually played a bard this or last patch you would have noticed more than enough back-back BL procs.

Okay i get what you mean, but i think you dont understand what they ment. DoTs are tracked serverside, all your DoTs will always go off at the same time as determined by the server tick. Yes they are tracked individually as far as crit chance goes, but they will always tick at the same time.

Its the same for all DoTs, and HoTs.

[OPneedNerfs]

People need to stop their "inputs" on bloodletter resets unless they've actually played a bard endgame before.

It's common knowledge for any decent endgame bard pre-3.0 to know of multiple bloodletter resets within 3s.

Also, the changes to skill speed and DoTs only makes this matter stand out more because now it's gonna happen more frequently.