Machinist superior then bards?

[RubenSnizzle]

MCH is still garbage buddy.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

MCH is still garbage buddy.

Yeah, bad ones who don't play the job right are. The rest of us are doing fine, thanks.

[Odowla]

MCH is still garbage buddy.

>1.1k sustained

smn does 1.1k sustained

"garbage"

[Aleph]

I'm a career bard but since they changed it to bow wizard I've been trying out MCH. I'm only 58 but already GB feels much more fluid then WM. Almost to the point where it seems like the designed it originally for MCH but then threw it on bard last second because they didn't have any better ideas.

But then, I'm on the 'less dps, more utility' side of the bard argument. To close the dps gap for bard I'd rather them make a song that boosts phy dmg for a target party member. Drains mp and can't be used with other songs but can be used with BV. This would highlight that 'support' role they keep saying we are. It would also encourage players to actually play support and not sit on full MP pools for entire dungeons.

[JohnMccain]

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Bloodletter can only reset every 3s, server DoT timings say so. River of blood is activated only when VB and WB crit. VB and WB tic at the exact same time(every ~3s). The only time you can get this "double proc" scenario is if your bloodletter comes off cooldown and your bloodletter resets via DoTs. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out. Being able to read tool tips and knowing how DoTs work truly help. I thought you needed to hear that from someone who mained BRD, if that is even a qualification lol.


Also there is no way of reacting to straighter shot procs. The proc registers right at the start of the next GCD. People can try it out for themselves by spamming heavy shot > straight shot and watch how the straighter shot proc doesn't get used up.

[Aiselia]

Bloodletter can only reset every 3s

Well, I don't know what to tell you, but I've experienced otherwise. Today, in fact. Just did Wanderer's Palace a short time ago and personally saw it reset twice within 3 seconds, with the first reset being halfway through the normal cooldown.

So honestly, I don't care how many people tell me how they think it works, I have personally experienced otherwise, so unless you can come up with some valid explanation for how I personally saw it reset twice within 3 seconds on a boss fight with only one target, I'm not going to say you're right, ever. Being able to read that I've personally experienced it reset multiple times within 3 seconds truly helps not continuing an argument that won't be won.

And that's of course only with one target. Add in multiple target scenarios and you've got any number of procs within 3 seconds if you're spreading the love.

[JohnMccain]

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Me and a few other people have provided hard evidence. And what did you provide? "Your personal experience" with no video or anything.

If you want to back up your claim, please provide a credible source.

[Aiselia]

Me and a few other people have provided hard evidence. And what did you provide? "Your personal experience" with no video or anything.

If you want to back up your claim, please provide a credible source.

What hard evidence? You've provided your explanation of how you claim it works. I have experienced otherwise. Your evidence, to me, is therefore useless and not hard at all.

I don't care about convincing you or anyone else. I know what I've experienced.

You can cite your "hard evidence" until you're blue in the face, but it won't prove anything to me.

[Felessan]

And that's of course only with one target. Add in multiple target scenarios and you've got any number of procs within 3 seconds if you're spreading the love.

All dots works in the same way. ALL dots. Be it a bard, ninja, summoner or monk.
The only thing that might give you 2 BL procs in the same 3 sec is a server/latency lag (you actually need to receive this proc from server and there as always some issues happens). And of course getting more than 2 procs is just impossible no matter how many targets you put your dots on.

You can go to dummy and try to get separate dots ticks on it. Post a video if you'll succeed.

[Aiselia]

The only thing that might give you 2 BL procs in the same 3 sec is a server/latency lag (you actually need to receive this proc from server and there as always some issues happens).

Which, frankly, is irrelevant how it happens as long as it can happen. Doesn't matter whether it's design or latency, a wasted proc due to a double proc is a wasted proc due to a double proc.