Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[HaroldSaxon]

That doesn't really solve it making you lose AF stacks though. You will have to use it instead of a Fire IV if Ley Lines isn't up and you got it early in your AF rotation.

No, but neither will having it as off GCD, because 3 seconds + 0.5 seconds + 3 seconds + 2.5 seconds = 9 seconds

That means you have 1 second to account for latency/movement. Astral Fire needs to be extended.

[Maero]

MFW:

haha thats awesome
And great guide Aikaal

[OneWingedSora]

No, but neither will having it as off GCD, because 3 seconds + 0.5 seconds + 3 seconds + 2.5 seconds = 9 seconds

That means you have 1 second to account for latency/movement. Astral Fire needs to be extended.

How about making it so that using a Thundercloud proc while under Enochian will extend your current stance(AF/UI) duration by 5 seconds.

[HaroldSaxon]

How about making it so that using a Thundercloud proc while under Enochian will extend your current stance(AF/UI) duration by 5 seconds.

It could work. But it would be a bit weird, being a Thunder spell. I still think its easier to increase the Astral Fire timer to the same as Greased Lightning.
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[Sleigh]

Having Enochian rewrite Enochian doesn't seem like too much of a buff to me without any other timer adjustments, but possibly I'm not thinking hard enough about it. Here's what it'd sound like to me:

Opener (30s) > rotation 2 (20-25s) > refresh Enochian within rotation 3 to turn it into rotation 1? The strange thing is once you get to rotation 3, you're in most scenarios quite safe to finish out your Enochian or let it drop naturally, so refreshing early has me confused (and you can't refresh a bit into the rotation or you'll have to B4 earlier, cutting your total Enochian timer down). The only benefit I see to it is having Enochian on CD faster so if you have to drop Enochian due to a phase shift or mechanic you might have one less rotation without it. I'm not sure if this is too big a QoL improvement.

It sounds like Thundercloud is gonna interact with Enochian to me, which would be quite helpful. I don't think they'll do anything to increase its damage like making it an oGCD, as our damage is in a very nice spot presently.

Edit: Unless I'm misreading and they mean B4's Enochian refresh. I'm reading it as the Enochian CD will refresh Enochian fully, not B4.

[Flipside101]

I don't feel it necessary for SE to adjust the way the enochian timers work. Just having the the first refresh of your time (25s) is enough to have that skill ready to go for the next rotation if it drops, if not, at most a 10s gap in which you'll mostly likely be UI phase anyway. To me it really is a matter of giving us more breathing room with our stacks. Everything else lines up, but being a monk with cast time really kills keeping stacks alive. Which also makes me hesitant to use Swift on anything else besides an emergency refresh of either enochian, or a stack.

[Alym]

I agree with Sleigh. From how I read it, I don't think the Enochian change they mentioned does anything but make the Enochian ability do a full duration refresh. It's how using Enochian should've been in the first place and this change is for sure needed but, from what was described, I don't see how it'll change too much. I think I've only had 2-3 instances of Enochian coming off CD while I still had Enochian up after a third rotation. It usually falls off on the third rotation after the fourth F4 for me and is then reapplied using Enochian instead of B4 after the UI phase.

We have to remember that a single refresh sounds like 55 seconds of Enochian, but in practice, that's only if you land B4 at like 1 second left of the first rotation duration. It's probably closer to a 45-48 second duration in practice for 2 rotations and could mean Enochian doesn't come off CD until the middle of a third rotation. Reapplying it there using the ability may make for some awkwardness of rotations and Enochian timer alignment in the future. We'll have to see how it shakes out.

Them saying there are incoming changes to Thunder have me very happy. Hopefully they'll do something interesting!

[Waliel]

I might be going crazy, but I could swear that Enochian sometimes bugs out and only gives you 15 seconds of it when you use it without the buff. Would at least fix that, if nothing else. You might get +5% to your UI phase in third rotation with the change, but not sure if that's viable or really worth anything.

[Sleigh]

I might be going crazy, but I could swear that Enochian sometimes bugs out and only gives you 15 seconds of it when you use it without the buff. Would at least fix that, if nothing else. You might get +5% to your UI phase in third rotation with the change, but not sure if that's viable or really worth anything.

I find the only time that ever happens is if you do an Enochian early in a proc-less rotation 3, as you're going into UI, and it's a legitimate error rather than a glitch. Especially likely with Selene and zero interruptions.

IDK, haven't seen any 15s that I didn't deserve while learning.

[Waliel]

It's just that I never cast Enochian until after I've gotten full mana and it's long gone by then.