Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[Kenji1134]

After playing around with the rotation, I can say that it does "work"... but damn the timing is tighter than a *mumble mumble* chick's *mumble mumble*!
Feels like you need a decent amount of spell speed to give yourself an extra 0.5 seconds of breathing room at the end.

Yeah, as others have said, increasing the duration of AF and UI to 12s would be great. Having F4 and B4 not refresh, but add at least 1 second (ideally 2) to AF and UI when they land (ideally when they are cast) would also be super helpful.
Or perhaps do the unthinkable and *gulp* reduce the cast time of F4 and B4 to 2.5s. That would greatly help with the timers, make the rotation timing feel more familiar, AND give us back a smidgen of mobility.

[Aikaal]

I do think it could possibility cause an issue to have the buff at 12 seconds. F4 with zero spell speed is at 2.55 seconds with Leylines. It's plausible to get the Haste Card and a crap load of spell speed to reduce the cast to somewhere about 2.3 secs (That's about 23,3% so it's already doable with AST Card. Easier with Selene buff) It would be extremely easy to claim the best rotation would be F3 > F4 x 5 > B3. Even if you were to lose stacks and pay the full cost of B3, you'd cast get the cast time reduction.

Unless someone is telling I'm completely crazy. 2.3*5 = 11.5 seconds.

[Sleigh]

BLM definitely A1 speed run king, I don't think SMN can top this if you ignore the adds (healers can kill the first two for free with non-GCDs, ignore/don't get second set).

I freakin' hate BLM A4 though, holy moly. So annoying. Think SMN wins either in effectiveness or consistency A2-4.

[OneWingedSora]

BLM definitely A1 speed run king, I don't think SMN can top this if you ignore the adds (healers can kill the first two for free with non-GCDs, ignore/don't get second set).

I freakin' hate BLM A4 though, holy moly. So annoying. Think SMN wins either in effectiveness or consistency A2-4.

There's a 1.4k SMN A1 parse on reddit with a 3:00 kill time and no NIN. And he even made a couple rotational mistakes in the video.

I am gonna do a speedrun soon with a bard and see how high I can get.

[Sleigh]

There's a 1.4k SMN A1 parse on reddit with a 3:00 kill time and no NIN. And he even made a couple rotational mistakes in the video.

I am gonna do a speedrun soon with a bard and see how high I can get.

Yep, it's very good for SMN numbers but he's not doing 1.4k single target. He gets multiple Deathflares/Painflares on multiple enemies, which is why it's 1.4k. In a true speedrun environment, you don't even attack those adds, so it's gonna lose to BLM, I don't see SMN consistently doing 1.3k+.

It's basically a T12 situation where SCH can spend a stack to destroy Blackfires, but in this case both healers + DRG can do it. The caster in the run who spends his resources/AoE will win over one who ignores them, but it will be less raid damage.

[OneWingedSora]

Yep, but it's not single target. He gets multiple Deathflares on multiple enemies which is why it's 1.4k. In a true speedrun environment, it's gonna lose to BLM, I don't see it doing 1.3k+.

He was at 1.38k before the adds and he didn't have trick attack. Unless you are counting multidotting the 0.5 and main oppressor AoEing, SMNs should get to 1.3k even without touching the adds

[Sleigh]

Hmm, perhaps SMN could be better then ;_;

Only got an 11% CHR on mine though, even with Litany. I feel like with some more runs it could be over 1.4k, but without a second Raging Strikes it's gonna be rough.

[OneWingedSora]

Hmm, perhaps SMN could be better then ;_;

Only got an 11% CHR on mine though, even with Litany. I feel like with some more runs it could be over 1.4k, but without a second Raging Strikes it's gonna be rough.

Yeah been getting horrible CHR myself even with 700 Crit+litany I am usually at 8%-14%.

Anyways out of curiosity if it's fine with you, how much do you usually do as BLM on A3 ? I am kinda having trouble on that fight if only for that horrible add phase.

[Sleigh]

Yeah been getting horrible CHR myself even with 700 Crit+litany I am usually at 8%-14%.

Anyways out of curiosity if it's fine with you, how much do you usually do as BLM on A3 ? I am kinda having trouble on that fight if only for that horrible add phase.

Honestly couldn't tell ya, I go SMN on it now (and I'm a mediocre SMN).

I'm the kind of player who prefers BLM, practices BLM more, loves BLM (yes even 3.0 BLM in its entirety!), but push comes to shove if a fight is annoying on BLM, or SMN can make the fight mechanically easier for others in a meaningful way that benefits clear consistency/speed, or SMN just has a lot of advantage, I jump ship. A2-4, each fight fits at least one of those categories, loyalty to BLM be damned. And, apparently A1 too :_:

[Aikaal]

I would think if you hit multiple targets with Flare you can get comparable numbers with no downtime as BLM. I highly doubt this strat will be usable in savage. 4 adds, 4 beams, 4 DPS. It's too obvious lol. Well we can't say about Savage mechanics yet.