Astrologian Needs Changes

[EchuKayu]

All of the cards should have a use, if spire and bole and ewer are so situational and you can spend so much time without any benefit and having so long before you can make use of the good cards, they need to be buffed so that they're all worth using. Make me want to buff people with bole, make me want to spread it because hey, not only does it reduce damage it lasts for a minute, make spire give TP and increase physical damage dealt hell card buffs override each other WHY can't I? Why do all cards last the same amount of time when they could easily last longer? Should draw have a lower cd? should shuffle? spread? Wouldn't it be fun and interesting if you were playing with those cards a whole lot more? I would be GLAD to take a hit to CO/TD and anything that increases the cards amount, if they just made using them all useful.

One big problem I have is RR and how much your luck matters drawing after. Sometimes you click every card buff off, or you just click that expanded off because you've wasted so many cards and you get bolebolespearbole.

[RichardButte]

It's possible your friend meant his AST added (nearly) 500 DPS including buffs and his own DPS, which is possible. However, that would likely meant he spent 90% of his time in Cleric Stance, didn't heal, and drew Balance nearly every time; SCH could easily do the same, while still contributing Embrace ever 2.5s and Selene's haste buff with far less effort and RNG involved. Another DPS could also easily provide more, if that's the case where another healer was essentially solo healing the encounter.

That's one of the best parts of SCH: if everything is going according to plan, you can just slip into CS and go to town for a bit. Even if people suddenly get hit, you can drop CS in a heartbeat and Tinkerbell will be there to start healing right away, even without your intervention.

Also, there's nothing better than being saved from a wipe because you got silenced and then your Selene dispels it immediately...

Seriously, ASTs need to bring SOOOOOOO much more to the table to rival the healing power and utility of the other healers...

And that's the other problem I keep seeing: AST isn't a class in a vacuum. It has two other healing classes to compete with, and you'd best believe that all raid content is going to be balanced around the most potent healers that can be brought to each encounter.

We can look at fighting games as a parallel, here: it doesn't matter how amazing a character's moves look on paper. What matters is how well each of their matchups with the other characters in the game go, and right now, AST is definitely trailing the other two classes.

After all, if raid content was balanced around the idea that you could dual-AST heal it, groups bringing WHM/SCH would have it cleared in less than a week.

[Brightshadow]

Edits Coming Soon Big Post

[Crevox]

bump for relevance before live letter

[Rajeme]

Yeah I also vote for some adjustments. Otherwise the salt gonna be big come alex savage lol.

[ckc22]

I wish they had never made a hybrid healer, I predicted these types of complaints the second they announced their intentions with astrologian. It's constantly "why am I not equal to/better at everything that Whm and Scholar are capable of?"

[Rajeme]

I wish they had never made a hybrid healer, I predicted these types of complaints the second they announced their intentions with astrologian. It's constantly "why am I not equal to/better at everything that Whm and Scholar are capable of?"

Well, not saying AST needs to be better than other healers. But for the sake of balance, the total value of the hybrid should be equal to others. That includes healing ability and support ability. And the inability to switch sects midfight kinda destroyed the hybrid value though.

[fanservice]

Well, not saying AST needs to be better than other healers. But for the sake of balance, the total value of the hybrid should be equal to others. That includes healing ability and support ability. And the inability to switch sects midfight kinda destroyed the hybrid value though.

Reminds me of the hybrid tax fiasco from WoW: why inherently weaken a hybrid class' DPS when they're intentionally designed to be bad at doing anything else when specialized for damage?

Similar concept here; heal potency doesn't need to be lower when you're committed to your healing style when the fight begins, especially given AST is already lacking in other tools/freedoms, this is salt in the wounds.

[DarkmoonVael]

I wish they had never made a hybrid healer, I predicted these types of complaints the second they announced their intentions with astrologian. It's constantly "why am I not equal to/better at everything that Whm and Scholar are capable of?"

Yeah, a unique style healer for the third healer class would have been preferable . Or one that doesnt feel like it went through some major last minute nerfs prior to release.

[Rajeme]

Hm...I'm watching translation for the live letter. It seems changes will be made to AST's card system. The basic healing system will not be changed. Having mixed feeling about this.