Astrologian Needs Changes

[Crevox]

Overall, I don't have a problem with the card mechanics, but I do think there could be a buff to most, if not all of them. Despite the OP singing praises about the Arrow Card...I've hardly noticed any effect when I use it on myself. Same could probably be said with most of the cards....

It's all relative. In general, the cards are sort of weak. If you're in an 8 man party and you give 1 of the 4 DPS a 15% arrow card (Royal Road boosted), overall, the party's DPS isn't going to change much.

However, compared to the other cards, this is still good, sadly.

[RoseM]

-Spear: Too gimmicky. There's no guarantee ever that whoever you throw it at will even use abilities, and they shouldn't go out of their way to USE abilities outside of proper timings just because the cooldowns are lower.

This is exactly what I was thinking and forgot to mention on my own posts! In quite a lot of the situation SPEAR doesn't help with anything. Even if they are fixed to affect buffs that are already on cooldown.

1. Remember on T13, when you were undergeared and going for a 1st clear, ALL of the tank defensive cooldowns needed to be timed for certain boss skills? Spear wouldn't help with anything.
2. Why would I use Saints of Shroud if my mana was full?
3. As a bard, I know my barrage/Hawk's Eye/ Blood for blood are always going to come off cooldown right before I apply my 4th (or 3rd? 5th?) sets of DOTS. Even if Spear helped them came off CD earlier by 8 secs, I would just hold them until I apply my dots to get the maximum usage of the buffs.

But meh,, I have already given up on this job, going back to WHM (unless they make significant buff to this job in the future). All the people saying AST is fine as it is, please just grab one into your Raid group and have fun in Alxendar Savage!

[Kogasan]

I say ewer should never be used on a BLM or smn because I feel that it would be wasting it. Ewer should only be used on a healing class. Smn and BLM both have ways to recover their own mp. So you say ewer should be used on a BLM or smn i think you are dead wrong op.

[Avin00]

a Friend of mine raids with SCH in high end content and has done so through all of coil up to T13, He's just replaced himself with an AST because parse for parse the party DPS increased by 500 with the AST there and not having the SCH. This isn't saying that the AST did 500 DPS but that party wide DPS was 500 higher on average over multiple runs. Yes AST healing potency is slightly lower than both WHM and SCH but in all end game content there is another healer in the party and that is the point. They are a little like the OT in a way, they don't need to have as much healing as the main healer their job is to strengthen the party. Stop looking at the individual and recognize that any buff to AST in serious content would likely mean there is no point in taking any other healer.

[MidnightTundra]

a Friend of mine raids with SCH in high end content and has done so through all of coil up to T13, He's just replaced himself with an AST because parse for parse the party DPS increased by 500 with the AST there and not having the SCH.

In order for this to even happen, your party would need expanded Balance on the entire fight (100% uptime) with a base party DPS of 10,000. This is impossible to do because AST has this thing called Cooldowns.

10,000 * 0.05(or 5%) = 500 btw. Expanded balance, which is your biggest increase in raid damage only lasts 15 seconds. Draw is every 30 seconds. You have a 5.6% chance to land your expanded royal road Balance combo within that minute you're waiting. Your friend just straight up lied to you.

[DarkmoonVael]

a Friend of mine raids with SCH in high end content and has done so through all of coil up to T13, He's just replaced himself with an AST because parse for parse the party DPS increased by 500 with the AST there and not having the SCH. This isn't saying that the AST did 500 DPS but that party wide DPS was 500 higher on average over multiple runs. Yes AST healing potency is slightly lower than both WHM and SCH but in all end game content there is another healer in the party and that is the point. They are a little like the OT in a way, they don't need to have as much healing as the main healer their job is to strengthen the party. Stop looking at the individual and recognize that any buff to AST in serious content would likely mean there is no point in taking any other healer.

Are you being serious? Like actually serious?

This is a whole lot of nope. To say that an AST through buffs alone bring similar dps to a raid as a bard on a bad day is quite the claim indeed. I ran all of coils as scholar, switched to astrologian, and can say the numbers do not agree with you in any way, shape or form.

[Cynfael]

Are you being serious? Like actually serious?

This is a whole lot of nope. To say that an AST through buffs alone bring similar dps to a raid as a bard on a bad day is quite the claim indeed. I ran all of coils as scholar, switched to astrologian, and can say the numbers do not agree with you in any way, shape or form.

Yeah. The math on this says "no way in hell."

[Deheuty]

The most useless spell in Astrologian's arsenal, IMO, would be Collective Unconscious. Whoever thought a channelled spell for a healer is a good idea when BLM are complaining about the amount of movement in dodging mechanics is affecting their dps?

[Staris]

It is clearly not a scholar replacement because shields are poor in comparison.

However, I would say it is perfect alternative for a WHM for end game raids, the healing potency per time on the spammed abilities are near identical. The healing alpha on the hots is greater, and the mana efficiency for overhealing is better.

The main additions that make it possibly better for pushing progression content is
1. The two dps dots require no accuracy
2. The cards can be managed for specific situations, (when your pulling tens- hundreds of times during progression the RNG can be used as an advantage)
3. Better movement ability while healing.
4. 5 Second hard res. (Huge during cutting edge progression)

We can't predict what raid content will require, but history points to the healing checks being trivial in comparison to min maxing required for the DPS/HP checks for first kills.

I mean the best healers will have all 3 leveled, to take advantage of any situation anyway.

[Irohma]

As a former SCH that is now playing AST I can only completely agree with the OP. The class is awesome to play, I love the randomness of the cards, the two stances of healing is interesting. Everything is fun while you are playing a normal dungeon or a Hard or Normal trial. However, when I went back to some EX Primals and tried solo healing some of them as I did with my SCH things started to show their true colors.