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  1. #31
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    Running at Max settings at WQHD (2560x1440) resolution, I have definitely noticed a difference in the visuals. Yes, there are some odd things that happen like the ground seeming to slightly ripple when moving quickly across it but overall I would say its a discernible improvement.

    P.S. For greater visual improvements, make sure to go into your graphics card settings and increase the color bit depth. For me it greatly increased the richness and color palette of the game as well as improved the visual contrast and shadow detail. This is independent of the dx version you are running.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    OK, Batman might be a bit much.

    However I was expecting at least Assassin's Creed: Black Flag level of water,

    https://youtu.be/ymYkqEKmqNU?t=9m7s

    I mean how old is that game?

    Heck here is the PS3 version,

    https://youtu.be/s2TcfPfkN2o?t=19m30s

    Seriously, the water looks better with tessellation off than on with those artifacts (as shown in the posted picture).

    You are literally comparing a single player game with VERY minimal variables that plays on tracks to a MMO with thousands of players doing any number of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    P.S. For greater visual improvements, make sure to go into your graphics card settings and increase the color bit depth. For me it greatly increased the richness and color palette of the game as well as improved the visual contrast and shadow detail. This is independent of the dx version you are running.
    No offense but it's 2015. Is there a single person left in the world that isn't running at True Color (24/32 bit)? O_o

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    You are literally comparing a single player game with VERY minimal variables that plays on tracks to a MMO with thousands of players doing any number of things.
    Black Flag is pretty sandbox if I'm right.

    Not to mention other MMOs can do water without weird artifacts.

    Seriously, GTA V on the PS3 has better looking water than FFXIV on my mid-range PC.
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  4. #34
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    The biggest improvement to was the real time reflections on the water and on the floor. I've had to stop, mesmerized, and play in the water in Pharos Sirius. And all the shiny waxed marble floors and their live reflection of the lights above them in the Gold Saucer is amazing.

    The other major improvement that I saw, funny enough, was vegetable patches. They were just kind of there before. That pumpkin patch in Camp Cloudtop, though, REALLY looks nice now. I think it's the improved shadows. The sold vegetable really looks amazing.

    SE warned that DX11's initial implementation would only offer modest improvements in graphics, but they'd continue finding things to tweak as the game is developed.
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  5. #35
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    At least you can run the game in DX11. My game crashes when I zone in the dx11 client.
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  6. #36
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    @Bishop81

    Yes, I'm sure there are. The default for most graphics cards is not set to that and from my experience there are a lot of people out there that are clueless or know very little about computer hardware components or their settings. The suggestion was not meant for those that know about these things, but for those that may not know about it. Such should have been obvious.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 07-10-2015 at 05:54 AM.

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    I always thought Archeage had perfect water for an MMO.
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    Anyway, all of the elitism is unwarranted. It isn't as if everyone here is PVPing to compete for openworld Raid bosses or anything like that. Heck, most of us don't even pvp.
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/6305634/

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyteStones View Post
    You can't be serious in expecting water effects like that to be this game let alone an MMO. That's utter nonsense. The amount of lag produced from generating the waves alone would make you want to off yourself.

    If you want to make the game prettier and more defined there is SweetFX. Unless you're running a hardcore rig, you're going to get massive FPS drops and overall a horrible experience if you want to come even remotely close to that (which you wont)

    besides I like how calm and clear the water is. Seeing the Batman waves is off putting to me personally.
    Archeage has some wonderful water effects... too bad the rest of the game is kinda awful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTyroE2DqxY - Water effects and glitchy glitchy ships spining like a blender.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 07-10-2015 at 09:43 AM.

  9. #39
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    To be fair, you have to play on a Monitor vs a Television Screen to really notice a difference.
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    Anyway, all of the elitism is unwarranted. It isn't as if everyone here is PVPing to compete for openworld Raid bosses or anything like that. Heck, most of us don't even pvp.
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/6305634/

  10. #40
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    Tessellation and Parallax Occlusion depend on the resolution of the texture being "bumpified".

    The textures in FFXIV must fit in a PS3's 256 MB of VRAM.

    This is the result.

    Until the PS3 is finally kicked to the curb and the game can be developed for PCs and PS4 with large memory pools, this what we have to live with. The other improvements in DX11 such as lighting/shading and reflections are very nice though.
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