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    Quote Originally Posted by Urielparadox View Post
    You don't learn anything and you increase the dungeon time by pulling g 1 to 2 grubs at a time. Tanks still struggle for hate because certain classes will and have to mutlidot/aoe or the dungeon takes 30min longer. If a tank grabs 1 pack and doesn't have any issues holding hate I'll only step if the healer wants to, a Blm can handle 2 groups in a high lvl roulette dungeon. If a tank has issues holding hate and it's only one group I will suggest taking multiple groups bc it's easier to hold hate on multiple groups. If the tank .
    That doesn't make any sense. You could do the same thing you are doing with big groups to hold threat in small groups. How is it easier? If anything, it's much harder as some dps start single targeting random mobs in the big group.

    You are trying to rationalize your terrible behavior and you arent making any sense while doing so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirgellon View Post
    That doesn't make any sense. You could do the same thing you are doing with big groups to hold threat in small groups. How is it easier? If anything, it's much harder as some dps start single targeting random mobs in the big group.

    You are trying to rationalize your terrible behavior and you arent making any sense while doing so...
    Because tanks only single target rotation on a marked mob and refuse to use their aoe skill, and I'll pull of the adds using only thunder and thunder starter on them on blm, or just Bain on smn. I'm also not going to us a 3k firestarter when a mob has 1k hp left I'll change targets for it. I even stated if a tank has no issues with hate i will do what the party wants done, so way to not read. High five.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urielparadox View Post
    Because tanks only single target rotation on a marked mob and refuse to use their aoe skill, and I'll pull of the adds using only thunder and thunder starter on them on blm, or just Bain on smn. I'm also not going to us a 3k firestarter when a mob has 1k hp left I'll change targets for it. I even stated if a tank has no issues with hate i will do what the party wants done, so way to not read. High five.
    I read what you zaid and you aren't asking the tank... You also failed to explain how exactly it's easier to tank more mobs. That may be the dumbest thing I've read today lol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urielparadox View Post
    it's easier to hold hate on multiple groups.
    Depends on the Tank. It is more efficient to hold hate on multiple groups. It is also level dependent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Urielparadox View Post
    The tank does not set the pace the party does.
    The Tank is part of the party. If the tank doesn't have the gear levels there is no way he will handle large pulls, manage the threat, and stay alive. You have to go at the tanks comfort levels.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneDawn View Post
    I don't think there's a whole lot of actual speedrunning happening in low-level dungeons, so you could go on and give healing a try as well.
    You would be surprised. I had a tank rush off in Brayflox normal and die before he got settled then blamed me for not being able to keep up with heals. He never said hello, or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneDawn View Post
    As a tank, you're the one who sets the run speed in regular dungeons. Don't like to speedrun? Just pull small packs. DPS trying to pull more packs? Let them die, unless they can actually manage to tank them.
    yep

    slow down the entire group because you can't hit flash, abyssal drain/unleash or overpower a few times

    and then of course, rattle off a few insults and leave your group for criticizing your behavior. On the next episode of Prima Donna Tank, we'll be showing you how to react to having two bards in your 4 man dungeon. Stay tuned!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cirgellon View Post
    That doesn't make any sense. You could do the same thing you are doing with big groups to hold threat in small groups. How is it easier? If anything, it's much harder as some dps start single targeting random mobs in the big group.
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