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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Did I say do only 10 runs and you're maxed ilvl190? Nope didn't think so. I said 4-8 tokens per piece of gear. That's 44-88 runs, not 10..... And my MMO history is FFXI for 10 years, where they did stuff right 90% of the time, unlike XIV where they get it right 40% of the time.
    You didn't just say 4 tokens per piece...

    So you play a video game that you think is bad 60% of the time? lol... That must be some life.
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirgellon View Post
    You still get gear for tomes...
    -Lesser- gear for tomes, at least for the next two weeks.
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    Seijuro Caelum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    Roll higher and stfu basically. This loot system was exactly what players asked for.

    door ---> this way.
    Ha got emmmmmm
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    Psalm 27:1 The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The LORD is the stronghold of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    -Lesser- gear for tomes, at least for the next two weeks.
    You mean it's exactly how it was at the previous cap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirgellon View Post
    You mean it's exactly how it was at the previous cap?
    Not as big a gap as then. I think the claim was that esoteric gear would be i200 and Alexander savage gear being i205, which was the same gap between upgraded poetics and dreadwyrm gear (I think).
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    T'erra Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themis View Post
    It's meant to be fairly easy. This is the story mode version for those who are not really raiders. Similar to how CT is designed for those players. From what I've read, Alex is somewhat harder than WoD but easier than the Ex Primals. That's right where it should be for the easy mode. Savage is coming in 2 weeks. This is the Coil level version that should be a lot harder to do.
    I had thought they said it was supposed to be about the difficulty of a coil with echo. Guess there was some different versions floating about.

    I'm well aware that it was supposed to be easier than coil, but in no way did I expect anyone to be clearing it on day one, let alone the first few hours. Makes me feel better that I didnt take the day off.
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    Last edited by Whiteroom; 07-08-2015 at 01:15 AM.

  7. #57
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    I had thought they said it was supposed to be about the difficulty of a coil with echo. Guess there was some different versions floating about.
    Since when was coil with echo hard?
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  8. #58
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    Dement Drachte
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    The problem with having an actual piece of loot drop is that the lucky few who get that on a weekly basis get a significant boost over everyone else right from the start. Which inherently wouldn't be bad but then the entitlement squad comes out to whine about how unfair it is that the DRG is in full Gordian gear while they only have 3 tokens. In this fashion, everyone can progress at about the same pace.

    The problem with EVERYONE getting a token at the end of a run is that it doesn't offer any incentive to go back and run it again for the week. Everyone clears the runs on Tuesday (especially if they're this easy) or Wednesday and then the stragglers who couldn't play on Tuesday or Wednesday are screwed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Did I say do only 10 runs and you're maxed ilvl190? Nope didn't think so. I said 4-8 tokens per piece of gear. That's 44-88 runs, not 10..... And my MMO history is FFXI for 10 years, where they did stuff right 90% of the time, unlike XIV where they get it right 40% of the time.
    What?

    I played XI for about 10 years too, right from the PS2 release up through the voidwatch stuff... and I fear you're looking at the past with nostalgia glasses on. I loved me some FFXI but they definitely did not do stuff right 90% of the time. Class balance wasn't even a thing. Certain jobs always got priority. The level of corruption that some LSes went through was obscene. HNMs was highly exclusionary and promoted botting. Hell NMs in general promoted botting. Hunting certain NMs was an absolute nightmare. For years relics were absolutely unobtainable for the vast majority of people, yeah it gave to their prestige but the people who had relics built them on the coattails on 40 other suckers. Let's not forget AV who was flat unkillable without glitching it. The list really goes on and on... Hell using the current topic as the best example, you would really rather have a loot system where you have to farm spawn items for 4-6 hours several times a week, have one night where you HAVE to be on cause your LS is spawning everything that night (have a vacation planned that day? Cancel it, you better get on or you just spent 30 hours for someone else to gear up), successfully win the fight less you lose all your pop items, hope to god your item drops (some were really rare), pray that you had enough "points" to outbid everyone in your LS for said item, and then hope that no one ninja lotted or hit the wrong button vs. lot against 8 other people for a guaranteed token... assuming you lose it 10 times, you have to run a 10 minute instance for a total of less than 2 hours per token.

    XI did some things right and I enjoyed my time there but it was riddled with plenty more flaws than FFXIV and XIV is infinitely more fair to all players.
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    Last edited by Dement; 07-08-2015 at 01:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirgellon View Post
    You didn't just say 4 tokens per piece...

    So you play a video game that you think is bad 60% of the time? lol... That must be some life.
    First, the 40% that they did get right, is what keeps me playing this game. Second what are you on about? "You didn't just say 4 tokens per piece..." I said

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Then if you don't receive gear, you get a consolation prize A TOKEN!, then you get like 4-8 tokens to redeem for a piece of gear.

    4-8 tokens for a piece of gear? Accessories like 4 tokens, head/hands/feet like 6 tokens, chest/legs like 8 tokens. It should have been we get gear or a token and locked out from loot, but still able to participate. Not hard to get, that's 4 tokens a week or 4 pieces of gear (if you got time and luck).

    Like the OP pretty much said, If you got a static you're solid and shouldn't have anything to worry about. But those of us who don't have time for statics are left to use DF/PF. The new loot system sucks plain and simple.
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  10. #60
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    There is ALWAYS people on during your schedule.
    You may have to work a bit extra but oh well.

    Also being so unlikable doesn't help your case OP!
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