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    Lisotte's Avatar
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    Lisotte Poena
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    If you're in a static, time is never wasted anyway, as someone will usually get something, which helps your group advance as a whole. :P

    Unless of course dragoon items drop and no one is one. But this new system should help that.
    I'm pretty tired of the whole "just get a static, and you'll be set!" Well guess what, there are plenty of players who are both skilled at the game and have plenty of time to play, but can't get into a static due to crazy work schedules. 99% of all PF's and shouts I see for people recruiting for statics say something like "we raid on tuesday wednesday..." well great you've already lost me, unless you're fine with me not coming half the time. I know from experience too, that while you can make a 5 man static work that schedules on the fly, it's practically impossible to find 8 people who mostly have changing schedules, and then find times where everyone can be on.

    Additionally, why the heck is all real endgame in FFXIV tuned for set in stone 8 man statics anyway? You can pug it in PF but good luck finding a group if you fall behind. In my event LS in FFXI we had raid nights, I was able to make most of them, but most nights involved multiple runs of some event, and we were able to sub people in and out for each run. Why can't this be the case in FFXIV? Why is it have 8 man or go bust? It's particularly damning considering 8 man static LS's have effectively either taken the place of your FC for the group of people that you progress with, or you do progress with your FC but only with those who fit in the initial 8 static.
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    Ibi Risasi
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    In my event LS in FFXI we had raid nights, I was able to make most of them, but most nights involved multiple runs of some event, and we were able to sub people in and out for each run. Why can't this be the case in FFXIV?
    What's stopping you from doing this for Alex-Normal?
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    I'm pretty tired of the whole "just get a static, and you'll be set!" Well guess what, there are plenty of players who are both skilled at the game and have plenty of time to play, but can't get into a static due to crazy work schedules. 99% of all PF's and shouts I see for people recruiting for statics say something like "we raid on tuesday wednesday..." well great you've already lost me, unless you're fine with me not coming half the time. I know from experience too, that while you can make a 5 man static work that schedules on the fly, it's practically impossible to find 8 people who mostly have changing schedules, and then find times where everyone can be on
    So make a static like this? I know of a few groups that are actually 3-6 people and they pug the rest weekly. Do whatever works for you to get through the content. If you can't be in a "normal" static because of your RL schedule, that's completely understandable. You'll either need to pug or find some way to work around your limitations, and the onus is on you to do so. You're going to find that the majority of raiders prefer the stability of a complete 8 man static, but there are those willing to have a looser arrangement. Try making or joining a linkshell for endgame content, maybe? I know when my static is looking for subs, the first places we go are linkshells, friend lists, and FC's. Party Finder is for when we've exhausted our other options and we're willing to roll the dice. :3
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    You're going to find that the majority of raiders prefer the stability of a complete 8 man static, but there are those willing to have a looser arrangement. Try making or joining a linkshell for endgame content, maybe? I know when my static is looking for subs, the first places we go are linkshells, friend lists, and FC's. Party Finder is for when we've exhausted our other options and we're willing to roll the dice. :3
    I agree with stability when it comes to raiding but thanks to new lockout system and token items we can now swap peoples on the fly if needed and even do some boost runs for friends that plays this game more casually if they want that. ^^
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