3.01 Patch Notes

[Ampheni]

Idunno, but personally I've only ran out of MP as a DRK when I actually use MP heavy skills over and over.

<rant>Yeah...well in a normal 4 man dungeon i normally won't have any mp nor anywhere close to it, but in an 8 man party especially with lots of buffs and debuffs going on, mp drains really quick to the point that it's not even funny. With the mp bug in place I feel I am heavily restricted as a DRK, I can't pop DA+Dark Dance as freely, I can't use DA+Dark Mind as freely either, let alone DA+Souleater. Unless I go out of defensive stance (which is btw suicide in a raid most of the time) to use blood weapon to keep up with it. Also don't forget whenever stoneskin and galvanize wears off, it also take off a chunk of you mp cause it's also a tick! </rant>

It just gets irritating watching my mp get vaporized so much quicker than it's supposed to be.(Heck I have less issue managing my mp when fighting a dummy without blood price on than fighting a raid boss with blood price on due to this bug.)

[Evergrey]

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I wasn't even talking about 4man groups, I was talking about my experience with MP in 8man groups, had no problem sofar. And I have done both MT and OT plenty of times, and often I tend to spend my MP deliberatly because I feel I got too much of it stored and could do some extra minor damage with it, just because.

[Ampheni]

I wasn't even talking about 4man groups, I was talking about my experience with MP in 8man groups, had no problem sofar. And I have done both MT and OT plenty of times, and often I tend to spend my MP deliberatly because I feel I got too much of it stored and could do some extra minor damage with it, just because.

Healers would appreciate that you use your mp more generously for mitigation purposes. And I second what Kiteless just mentioned. Being a tank is all about mitigation and holding aggro, you are supposed to be generously dishing out DA+Defensive CDs and DA+Souleater once in a while, I am not saying that managing MP is not important, but when having MP management issue with the bug is just it's quite a bit deal, because it's virtually gimping your job quite a bit if you are not taking advantage of those DA+Defensive cooldowns, they are actually better than how most people put it.

[Evergrey]

Healers would appreciate that you use your mp more generously for mitigation purposes.

Never said I don't spend enouth of it, just saying that I havn't had any problems, or rather noticed a MP drain bug which hurts my usage/rotation.
I have read a few people posting that the Dark Art bug where it only effected 1 enemy instead of several happened from person to person, so maybe this is the same? Idunno, just sharing my story.

[Kiteless]

Never said I don't spend enouth of it,

Yes you did:

just saying that I havn't had any problems, or rather noticed a MP drain bug which hurts my usage/rotation.

[Evergrey]

Yes you did:

Hmm, so basicly I have to put myself in "I'm out of MP" situations before it's considered that I spend it as used to? Well then it might not be a bug, maybe you spend to much by your own?

jk

[Kiteless]

Hmm, so basicly I have to put myself in "I'm out of MP" situations before it's considered that I spend it as used to? Well then it might not be a bug, maybe you spend to much by your own?

jk

Good DRKs will spend enough MP to be as close to bottom as possible without running out. Unfamiliarity with content might imply a need to save a small "emergency fund," but in general, you want to get as close to 0 as you can without actually reaching it.

With a solid understanding of DRK's mechanics, as well as good resource management skills, it's not difficult to find a groove where it's possible to do this quite reliably. When not dealing with the clientside MP leech, it's quite easy for myself and other DRKs to reach that sweet spot fairly consistently without going over. It's when you introduce that extra, unpredictable MP drain that all of a sudden, we're dipping into our emergency funds at key moments or losing Darkside. And this has nothing to do with one's own spending, this has to do with having the audacity to be healed.

[Ampheni]

Hmm, so basicly I have to put myself in "I'm out of MP" situations before it's considered that I spend it as used to? Well then it might not be a bug, maybe you spend to much by your own?

jk

If you are saying that you never pop DA+dark dance and only pop DA+souleater every 1 minute, just to maintain your mp/darkside then yeah of course everyone can do it, but if you want to at at least on par with other tanks with this bug while being able to maintain that kind of mp? gl with that. It's just not right when i can keep my DA+Defensive CDs on more frequently when fighting a dummy than an actual raid which i can use blood price to restore mp is simply not right.

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^ I can't agree more with this, that's basically what I am trying to say, you sir, have my thanks.