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    Massterchef's Avatar
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Divebombs View Post
    No, merged of course.

    My point is that unless these particular fights we've seen so far are stacked in WAR's/melee's favor, the fact a WAR can outdps some dps classes is ridiculous. I also happen to believe the gap between melee and ranged dps is a bit too large for the support BRD and MCH currently offer.
    Unmerged parse #s should be the ones you are posting. Besides I feel like 800 would be a little below average for that fight given what people pull on dummies and the damage buffs from stances.

    Fights with downtime also favor MCH because we get more opportunities to line up CDs for burst and less time for sustained to diminish our DPS.
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    Ririnzo Roronzo
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 70
    I'd like to know about cooldowns. People say to save cooldowns for certain phases and I get you can save hawk's eye, blood for blood, etc., but what about reload and quick reload? If I save those im stuck with rng.
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    Excel Kobayashi
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbiaus View Post
    I'd like to know about cooldowns. People say to save cooldowns for certain phases and I get you can save hawk's eye, blood for blood, etc., but what about reload and quick reload? If I save those im stuck with rng.
    They can't all be perfect Wildfire bursts.
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbiaus View Post
    I'd like to know about cooldowns. People say to save cooldowns for certain phases and I get you can save hawk's eye, blood for blood, etc., but what about reload and quick reload? If I save those im stuck with rng.
    Interested in this as well. The point of Machinist seems to be to use your procs for your typical damage with the high burst phase each time Rapid Fire and Wildfire are up to maintain your higher dps amounts.

    Quick Reload @ 30's intervals for your guaranteed procs (i.e. if you get a Split Shot Proc then you would pop Quick Reload for the Guaranteed Slug Shot into Clean Shot)

    Reload @ 60s seems like it should always be saved for the Rapid/Wildfire phase.

    Hot Shot - Gauss Barrel - Lead Shot - Wildfire - Quick Reload - Split Shot - Reload - Rapid Fire -> Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Clean (+ oGCD skills etc for the most burst during Wildfire) - Turn off Gauss Barrel

    Has it been tested whether auto attacks are included in the Wildfire damage? Is that the portion of 25% of "most" damage that isn't included? (indicating that you should only use Wildfire under the use of Gauss Barrel.)

    2300 Burst Potency every 90s + 580 Potency Wildfire charge?

    I don't think it's worth going into Gauss Barrel at any other point other than AOE, due to losing AA damage.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 07-07-2015 at 12:03 PM.

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    Zanzhiz Exaverion
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    Unmerged parse #s should be the ones you are posting. Besides I feel like 800 would be a little below average for that fight...
    No, no that's ridiculous.

    The turret is part of your damage, you should not be doing 1k dps and then your pet drops 200 more on top of it. You have a pet for a reason, it boosts your numbers, it boosts your parties numbers, it's literally part of the class. Posting a dps rotation without a pet is nonsense because then you're skewing the data in favor of "machinist" minus the machine, being worse than X class. That's like parsing Summoner without a pet, it's nonsense, and everyone who ever touches Machinist should know that.
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    enil's Avatar
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    Character
    Mirri Weatherlight
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ZanzhizExaverion View Post
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    "UnMerged" parses are not referencing whether Pet data is merged or not. It's referencing if you are running your parse in one continuous fight, "merged" is having the fight broken up into several instances (due to breaks or downtime) and then merging them back together, eliminating some of the downtime and showing a inflated DPS number.
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