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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Now that's just a load of nonsense.

    First of all, Battle Litany affects the entire party, so Summoners would benefit from it as well. Second, Spell Speed now increase DoT damage so Fey Wind and Arrow are also a DPS boost to Summoners. And Lastly, when balancing classes, you don't take in factor how it's affected by other classes since party formation won't always consist of said classes.
    Gotta correct a couple things here. Fey Wind and Arrow give increased attack speed, not SS, so they actually don't impact DoT damage values in any way.

    The party formation when judging a class ... yes you don't want to make too many assumptions, but you also can't look at classes in a vacuum either. Easiest example is, in 2.5, Selene buffed BLM very well, and was shit on SMN. While you could say you shouldn't judge them by having Selene or not, it's also very realistic to say, in a good group, once the fight was known by your healers, you're getting Selene and BLM benefits from it and SMN doesn't.

    In 3.0 though I think you're somewhat right; I consider most things completely not guaranteed anymore (NIN/DRG/AST/SCH/BRD, you could have only a couple, none, or every single one!). I do think looking at what a class gets from another class, vs what another class gets from that same class, is worth examining at least. Like, I do think AST does benefit BLM a lot more than AST benefits SMN, though the results of that wouldn't necessarily mean anything.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 07-02-2015 at 11:05 AM.

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