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  1. #141
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    If they remove gear rewards from hunts (as was suggested here), what effect will it have on players who prefer open world content? This thread is full of raiders who only care about their own gear proggression and whine when some non-instanced content is rewarding for once.

    IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T PARTICIPATE.

    You have the solo dailies for seals if you don't line the group ones. Complaints about world content is what got it ruined in WoW and don't want it to happen here. Making content unrewarding (cosmetic-only rewards) is a very good way to ruin it. Let the non-raiders have their own endgame: relic, hunts, and dungeons.

    Edit. Asking for not only gear rewards to be removed but also the hunts themselves? That doesn't make any sense. You get the same outcome by just not doing it. Let other people have their fun even if you're not having fun. Removing optional content will not improve this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by HereticBliss View Post
    Making useless comments like "if you don't like it don't do it" helps absolutely no one and only serves to make you look like a selfish dick. There's no reason anyone should have to avoid certain aspects of the game when they can easily be adjusted to accommodate the majority without causing any extra effort on your part.

    If you can't grasp this, be a dear and quit the game.
    If you meant my post, I was replying to people who want the rewards to be made into some cosmetic junk and the people who want hunts outright removed. And here you mention just improving hunts, completely oblivious to my point. If you can't read words, be a dear and quit the forums. If someone truly hates hunts so bad, that they want it to be made unrewarding or even removed, then yes they should not do it! It's optional content for heavens' sake. Someone asking content they don't like to be removed is the selfish one and your ability to twist that around is quite impressive. I never said the hunt system shouldn't or couldn't be improved, only that it should be left in place along with its rewards for those that like it.

    Cases in point:
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshade View Post
    A complete overhaul or scrapping is necessary imho.
    Quote Originally Posted by SakuraMidori View Post
    hunts are busted and at this point need the boot
    And lastly the OP himself.
    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    Just delete the hunts
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    Last edited by Reinha; 06-30-2015 at 07:34 PM.
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  2. #142
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    AsahinaMyLove's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    This is absolutely revolting, the community has become insanely toxic and outright spiteful and nasty over the course of a few days.

    Give us some other method to get better gear.
    10000time this!!!

    My biggest reason why I STILL Dont do hunts to upgrade gears! >_>
    Hunts only makes people HATE each other! I keep hearing "Inv plzzz" "You pulled to early! B-list him!" "Couldnt you jerks wait a 1sec longer?!"

    Why not a weekly quest, like the current one "Do all 3 Crystal towers"

    But instead of CT "Do 3 Heavensward Dungeons" <,<
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  3. #143
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    where it's fun? where this soo good open world content is challenging or fun? it's first come, first serve. if we was something like 400-500 player per server it will not be a trouble, but there it's more 3000-5000 player per server!

    what people ask, is not to take out open world content, is more to make it fair, make it that everybody of the freaking playerbase can take part into it! more important, what the people ask is more challenge and fun! there a zergfest have no risk, no fun, no challenge and only reward for a few... do it seems normal?

    you are there attacking raider, when by example, i'm not a raider, i did await soo badly the hunt for what it can be really and we did get the worst possible system... sorry but i hate soo much the actual hunt, that nothing you can say can make me love this junk... you can't imagine how this feature was able to be amazing... what we have is not even the shadow of what the hunt can be! and why that? because some people did ask for the return of free for all NM... when Yoshida did promise us to never bring them back....

    i'm the first one asking for another activity challenging, fun and rewarding outside raid, but this... is simply an insult to us!
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    The hunt system doesn't need to be fixed, it needs to be scrapped. It adds no interesting gameplay while acting as a gate to content far beyond its own level of challenge.
    Dear god this. A complete overhaul or scrapping is necessary imho.
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  5. #145
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    Hunts have always been an unfair joke and all they do is bring out the bad in ppl and show us just how far greed can push ppl. Hunts are toxic nothing more some ppl don't load as fast as others {ps4 players} other times ppl just pull since all they care about is them self. Iv seen fc members kick ppl for pulling early ppl cussing saying they will kill other players hunts are busted and at this point need the boot
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    i can't believe people try that hard to defend hunt.... how defend a zergfest is possible? simply say you want your easy reward that better, i will understand... but there.... simply no... stop trying to make hunt better than it is, when it's clearly not possible... you are soo adamant to defend it when... gosh this stuff is soo broken...
    I want a competition in information management department and it's what I getting from hunts, so I am pretty satisfied with them. And you are trying to force your opinion as a universal truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    i will go farther, do your subs is more important than mine or any person of this forum? no, then why people paying the same subs can't get the same game.
    And your subscription have the same weight as mine. Why should I comply to something that you want and I am not? You want to ruin a fun part of my game - I am clearly against it. You have your boring daily board marks, leave my funny zergfest "who will get there first" alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    It seems like hunts need to be reworked a little bit? Are multiple high ranking hunts given out each day? People should be able to do it once a day, with multiple hunts occurring - unless that's already the case.
    It'll be no different as with board marks - then what the point to have two identical activities for the same game content?

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    where it's fun? where this soo good open world content is challenging or fun? it's first come, first serve. if we was something like 400-500 player per server it will not be a trouble, but there it's more 3000-5000 player per server!
    You like to exxagerate a lot. 90% of server population don't do hunts, they settle to board marks. The only part that really complaint are those who wants to participate and get quick reward but found it unappealing to actually compete with zergfest.
    Treat hunts as marathon contest - there are hundreds of people and you need to run fast to get reward.

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    what people ask, is not to take out open world content, is more to make it fair, make it that everybody of the freaking playerbase can take part into it! more important, what the people ask is more challenge and fun! there a zergfest have no risk, no fun, no challenge and only reward for a few... do it seems normal?
    It's no risk and no challenge - than what's your problem with hunts? It's implied from this statement that it's easy and free marks with no downside - just walk-in and get them (it'a a lie, but I am interested to hear you explanation for this contradiction). If it's reward only a few - it means that there is already both risk and challenge - as getting into this "a few people who gets reward" is a challenge that you might lose (=risk).
    And zerg is understandable as people who wants a freebie are always a great number.
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    Last edited by Felessan; 06-30-2015 at 05:04 PM.

  7. #147
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    The sjw op and crew that started this thread are laughable.
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    10000time this!!!

    My biggest reason why I STILL Dont do hunts to upgrade gears! >_>
    Hunts only makes people HATE each other! I keep hearing "Inv plzzz" "You pulled to early! B-list him!" "Couldnt you jerks wait a 1sec longer?!"
    No No No No lol. People have been Hating each other Far longer and in way more Toxic ways for crappier reasons waaaay before Hunts came along. People in this thread need to stop Blaming Hunts for Bad People just being Bad. While waiting 5mins for everyone and their mothers to come may be percieved as a short time for some of us, it is not for others, and to get extremely upset about it and Blame the Hunts is just bleh. Even if the HP was increased greatly like someone mentioned before, it wouldn't change that someone would Miss it. I missed alot of Hunts and still Hunt to get my gear up efficiently, and have yet to rage or get butt hurt over it because I understand that its not the activity that sucks, but other individuals (In the Case of Individuals doing it with the intent to butt hurt u) which is nothing new in game nor outside of it.

    I have nothing against Hunts, and they can change it if they want (or Scrap it). Personally I believe Endgame gear upgrade should have remained in endgame content where individuals had to strive to better themselves or better their situations (In cases that Individuals Lag). It was a Testament of you rising above the challenge (Even for everyone who got it through the aid of others Via Video/Guides). I refuse to Blame Hunts though for Negative behavior in Human beings, and thats essentially what a good portion of this thread is doing lol.
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    Last edited by Anemone_Valesti; 06-30-2015 at 05:12 PM.

  9. #149
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    I just thought if they added more HP to the hunt mobs when more players were in combat with it/in the vicinity of it, it would be better for all.

    Like how FATEs are stronger or weaker dependent on the number of participants.

    Or add a timer in which the S Hunt mobs are not target able for 5 minutes after they pop.
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  10. #150
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    Reduce respawn times for A and S rank, make them yield rewards only once a day for each player, perhaps once every three days for S ranks, and there will be no toxic community in this regard.

    Otherwise, give existing marks much more health, reduce the required contribution for the highest reward, or have the mobs spawn on the map with some sort of shield around them, which has a timer in form of a buff/debuff. This will let people prepare.

    I'm no game designer, but it's incredibly easy to come up with simple solutions. The current system is just terrible.
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