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  1. #131
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    I don't understand why Hunts are still a thing, personally.

    At least they shouldn't be required for character progression. Have seals just be good for optional items and junk, don't have it be the /only/ way to get something that you need to make your character better. They just plain aren't fun to do.
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  2. #132
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    About toxicity of hunts - if people behave properly, it very nice activity where you can meet a lot of nice people. If you (or other people) decide to behave like a jerk, people will react accordingly.
    It's just not a solo play and there is some unspoken rules, and if you follow them, people will be nice to you, will remember you, there are usually some chat going on in breaks and atmosphere is usually quite friendly.
    I hunted 1.5 full sets and never encountered toxicity towards myself, or my party or anger inside my party or something like this. People complains about those who are too selfish or who are intentionally makes it harder for others.

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    want a solution? make the rank A and S be limited, meaning you can kill each Rank A and S 1 time per week or day.
    and take out the limitation of the dailiy/weekly
    For limited seal per day there is already a board hunts, no?
    The whole point is kinda strange - we have 2 sources of seals - one designed for those who don't want to compete (and it was buffed considerable with each iteration of hunts) and one is for those who want to compete. And I don't really understand the constant urge to bring second one to first group.

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    I don't understand why Hunts are still a thing, personally.
    At least they shouldn't be required for character progression. Have seals just be good for optional items and junk, don't have it be the /only/ way to get something that you need to make your character better. They just plain aren't fun to do.
    And they aren't required. You can earn 100+ seals from board hunts each day, this is enough to upgrade gear in casual way (only about 3 weeks to get full ilvl179).
    Hunts are for those who want to get everything here and now.
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  3. #133
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    no please stop to say this, compete? in a zergfest? you will have told me a competition based on the number of hunt you have done in the week, why no.... but this is not competition!

    a competition means that all participant have a chance to be winner, the only difference is them luck or skill.... there 1 monster for 3000+ person per server and per area is not a competition!
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    they made it clear so many times that this game will keep adding 2 types of content: 1. extremely hard content that only 5% of the players can do and 2. extremely boring content that you have to spend a lot of time and make sure you have to suffer a huge pain doing them.

    trust me, the upcoming new relic weapon quest line will make people complain hard.
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    The relic is entirely another thing I'm not looking forward to. The moment it starts to seem ANYTHING like the Zodiac Saga (especially something as poorly implemented as Novus), I'm tossing that thing and never looking back.

    I made it through ARR just fine without a relic. I would have no problem passing up said content. I may not even retain the good graces to even help anyone else in it. . . Yes, my distaste for the Zodiac Saga and how you handled relic weapons is THAT strong, SE.
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  6. #136
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    It must be a server thing? Honestly, my experiences have been so much better since I have switched to Lamia. Hunts have been fine from what I've heard.
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    a competition means that all participant have a chance to be winner, the only difference is them luck or skill.... there 1 monster for 3000+ person per server and per area is not a competition!
    It's a competition - who have better connections to get information faster and which party have better composition to get better participation.
    Hunts really not a game who will kill mark faster, it's a game who will get information about it faster, and for this some job should be done to ensure efficiency of hunting.
    Information about each and every mark is relayed. And the closer you are to a big information hubs, the faster you'll get it and thus it will allow you to arrive at hunt target in time. Managing information is a competitive game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    Which would completely kill Hunts. Hunts are not fun or interesting, they are efficient for their rewards. You take away that reward, you take away any incentive to do them, and they die.
    That's not quite true, just like when hunt rewards were nerfed at the end cycle for ARR it did not die off completely. The zerging for the most part stopped and while less people still did it...the difference was the people who enjoyed hunts kept doing it while those only after the rewards stopped. The same thing needs to happen to HW hunts. It should be content for those who enjoy that aspect of gameplay and not armies of lemmings who are only there for the reward. The amount of seals rewarded should be drastically reduced and same with law tomes. Hunts did not die off in ARR when the rewards were reduced, the people only there for reward was reduced but people whop enjoyed that form of content remained and in more appropriate size groups for it.

    The biggest problem with hunts right now is the zerg armies that wipe out hunts in seconds of which most are only there because of the excessive reward, reduce that and like with ARR just prior to HW the zerging will slow down or stop therefore letting those who enjoy that aspect of game do it in more appropriate size of groups. There are sometimes in excess of a hundred people zerging A ranks on my server and 80-90% of them are only there for the reward while 10-20% are the ones who are there for what should be for the right reason which is because it is a gameplay aspect they enjoy regardless of seals/law reward.
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felessan View Post
    It's a competition - who have better connections to get information faster and which party have better composition to get better participation.
    Hunts really not a game who will kill mark faster, it's a game who will get information about it faster, and for this some job should be done to ensure efficiency of hunting.
    Information about each and every mark is relayed. And the closer you are to a big information hubs, the faster you'll get it and thus it will allow you to arrive at hunt target in time. Managing information is a competitive game.
    It seems like hunts need to be reworked a little bit? Are multiple high ranking hunts given out each day? People should be able to do it once a day, with multiple hunts occurring - unless that's already the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felessan View Post
    It's a competition - who have better connections to get information faster and which party have better composition to get better participation.
    Hunts really not a game who will kill mark faster, it's a game who will get information about it faster, and for this some job should be done to ensure efficiency of hunting.
    Information about each and every mark is relayed. And the closer you are to a big information hubs, the faster you'll get it and thus it will allow you to arrive at hunt target in time. Managing information is a competitive game.
    i can't believe people try that hard to defend hunt.... how defend a zergfest is possible? simply say you want your easy reward that better, i will understand... but there.... simply no... stop trying to make hunt better than it is, when it's clearly not possible... you are soo adamant to defend it when... gosh this stuff is soo broken...

    read me one more time, where is the competition for 3000+ person for 1 monster per area. i will go farther, do your subs is more important than mine or any person of this forum? no, then why people paying the same subs can't get the same game. with a zergfest not every one have the same experience. nor the same game. the hunt is a failure, a garbage, a junk that defile the name of Final Fantasy 14... you can try to defend it as hard as you want it's a reality! any one that don't play the game, heard of it and find it silly or idiot or dumb or soo much outdated... no new player find it amazing, fun or challenging... wake up of your sweet dream. the hunt need to be take out and changed completly!
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