Easiest dps right now

[MetaRed]

Ugh, stupid smartphone posting before I'm done typing, and not having an edit post button on the mobile version of the site.

Anyways apologies for the double post but this it is incorrect to assume or state BLMs have a similar rotation as in 2.xx.

In short we now have to manage a buff with a counter similar to how a monk must keep up greased lightning on top of astral fire and umbral ice and then our highest potency attack is gated behind both of these buffs being up at the same time, both which run on different timers. The rotation has changed even when acting as a turret on a dummy but even having to move slightly it changes a great deal as even one second of lost time on one of our traits can result in losing access to cast our highest potency spell.

I haven't played enough of the other DPS roles to make a judgement on which is easiest but I don't think it's black Mage at the moment.

[Dante_V]

Bard is easiest IMO.

[Syzygian]

U can't argue game mechanics since everyone have to deal with that. It can be said the same thing about ninja. Boss jump or mob dies before getting ur AC off well there goes ur huton, ohh great mudra lag. All the things u mention about ur play time with drg basickly sums it to one game mechanics. Everyone has to deal with with it not just drg. And no my drg is only 50 heack my main which is mnk is only 53. And that sure has change the most for PB opening. Drg same opening except u have more things to weave in between. Having more button to to press does not equal hard.

What people are trying to explain is that Huton and GL have several seconds of leeway to handle mechanics, BotD has *1*, 2 if you're packing a GCD that is less than 2.40 seconds. Neither MNK or NIN has to expend the duration of their buff intelligently to maximize DPS, they just have to keep it up. Barring that yeah, lots of buttons to push, positionals, procs, dealing with mechanics, yes, all jobs have that. But none of them have 600 potency riding on their ability to properly sacrifice uptime of their buffs. That is unique to DRG and in the extremely dodge-heavy/mechanic-heavy HW content it is extremely difficult.

[FreyrPrime]

What people are trying to explain is that Huton and GL have several seconds of leeway to handle mechanics, BotD has *1*, 2 if you're packing a GCD that is less than 2.40 seconds. Neither MNK or NIN has to expend the duration of their buff intelligently to maximize DPS, they just have to keep it up. Barring that yeah, lots of buttons to push, positionals, procs, dealing with mechanics, yes, all jobs have that. But none of them have 600 potency riding on their ability to properly sacrifice uptime of their buffs. That is unique to DRG and in the extremely dodge-heavy/mechanic-heavy HW content it is extremely difficult.

This.

Described very elegantly I might add, but this 100%.

[Humorless]

Really? xDD



(I'd say Bard & Ninja is easier)

This is such a dumb statement. The DRG rotation was always "long", but that didn't make it complicated whatsoever. At the end of the day it was CT-FT-FT combo's on repeat with HT and Ph alternating in between. The only thing that changed in the new patch is a 4th hit with a positional and Geirskogul. Congrats, you finally have to think about what you're doing...

[FreyrPrime]

This is such a dumb statement. The DRG rotation was always "long", but that didn't make it complicated whatsoever. At the end of the day it was CT-FT-FT combo's on repeat with HT and Ph alternating in between. The only thing that changed in the new patch is a 4th hit with a positional and Geirskogul. Congrats, you finally have to think about what you're doing...

Wow.. and other jobs do? MNK is easily as brain dead Flank-Flank-Back, Back-Back-Flank, Flank-Flank-Flank repeat?
NIN had their opener and then just keep up Huton?
Black Mage 4 F1's per Astral phase, fire weave appropriately?
BRD arguably the easiest class in the game.

Where does this vitriol come from? Show me concrete proof that any DPS has more to juggle right now than DRG. Heck, NIN doesn't even need to watch Huton anymore :P

[Humorless]

What people are trying to explain is that Huton and GL have several seconds of leeway to handle mechanics, BotD has *1*, 2 if you're packing a GCD that is less than 2.40 seconds. Neither MNK or NIN has to expend the duration of their buff intelligently to maximize DPS, they just have to keep it up. Barring that yeah, lots of buttons to push, positionals, procs, dealing with mechanics, yes, all jobs have that. But none of them have 600 potency riding on their ability to properly sacrifice uptime of their buffs. That is unique to DRG and in the extremely dodge-heavy/mechanic-heavy HW content it is extremely difficult.

Clearly just a DRG trying to make his job sound difficult, but I suggest you try playing the new monk before talking. GL3 upkeep is significantly more difficult due to the instant application and we don't even get to relax during downtime. With a low GCD and constant positionals MNK is still a far more active job.

[m3eansean]

Heck, NIN doesn't even need to watch Huton anymore :P

Wrong, we do have to watch huton, we have to interrupt or normal dps rotation to include the new armor crush rotation to refresh Huton for 30 seconds. If not done well, one of our dots, or our slashing debuff will fall off the enemy, resulting in a DPS loss.

Furthermore, if you're not watching Huton, and it falls off and you dont have Jutsu up, your DPS plummets. Just like losing GL with a monk, we have to wait several seconds before we can get it back.

[FreyrPrime]

Clearly just a DRG trying to make his job sound difficult, but I suggest you try playing the new monk before talking. GL3 upkeep is significantly more difficult due to the instant application and we don't even get to relax during downtime. With a low GCD and constant positionals MNK is still a far more active job.

When you Dragon Kick, or Boot Shine, or True Strike, or ANY of your positionals you know WELL in advance where you need to be and can adjust accordingly. In the event that you have to use one of them outside of their requirement you don't lose 190 potency, AND it's not random. You don't finish your combo and then suddenly realize you need to be at the back of the boss WHILE keeping track of BotD to make sure you can Geirskogul.

It's not even comparable. Monks have less buttons to hit, GL3 still only takes 22.5 seconds to apply (BotD has a CD of 60s), and their positionals arent completely neutered when they're forced out of position.

[Tilgung]

With a low GCD and constant positionals MNK is still a far more active job.

Low GCD means more Greased Lightning leeway. Maximizing BotD uptime and Gierkogul usage has a literal 1-2 second margin of error.

Constant positionals that aren't random procs or inhibited by animation locks that are absolutely required to be used to maintain maximum DPS.

Try again.