Easiest dps right now

[Humorless]

I've read this entire thread, and I still have no idea. Easy is subjective, because some people don't mind lots of buttons, and some people don't mind positional requirements. So I'd like to know, which of the DPS classes has the least buttons/bloat? I don't care about positional requirements. I just don't like having to push sooo many buttons.

BLM is the one with the least buttons. A lot of skills that are almost obsolete, hardly any cross-class skills worth using regularly, cooldowns are mostly defensive.

[Syzygian]

My point is your class isn't some extremely hard to play thing that you need to get all hurt over someone pointing it out? There are several other DPS classes that have things that are 'just as hard' and 'just as annoying' and 'just as complex' as dragoon does. I don't find 2 random positionals adding complexity to a class.

Its not just the two positionals... its not procs... its not the number of buttons to push... its the fact that those positionals maintain BoTD and are 4th tier combos. Imagine you had to wait an extra GCD to refresh GL, and every other time you did, to achieve optimum DPS you had to expend 50-75% of the remaining duration on an oGCD skill, and then pray you have enough skill speed and no mechanical interruptions in between that and your next combo finisher. I understand MNKs now have an ability that allows them to switch forms at will, and a single attack that they can spend GL with but as I understand it this is not something you use repeatedly in your rotation, with DRG it is. You have to play a balancing game of not only hitting those positionals but also spending and getting back time on your stacks, or in DRG's case, BoTD. Its a completely different game from MNK.

The positionals aren't what make it hard, its keeping BoTD up that is the tricky part. You are expected to bring your remaining time on that buff down to 1 or 2 seconds before refreshing it 3 times a minute in a continuous rotation if mechanics allow. Its bleeding edge, fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants intense.

Regardless of the mechanics in any fight MNK can get back their stacks by simply ho-humming through the rotation, DRGs actually have to plan ahead considerably more since their "stacks" have a 1 minute cooldown i.e. it has to be up and available to use for your combo finishers to even be usable and/or contribute to maintaining it. Your expenditure of the duration of this buff using Geirskogul also shifts combos every minute in a continuous rotation, so your placement of it in the rotation is never something that you will get used to or that will become "muscle memory". If your eyes are glazing over at reading this it just further proves my point: It is extremely hard to play now, and I say that as someone that has experience playing both jobs in endgame content in 2.0. With the changes made to all the melee, DRG easily has the highest skill cap of any of the melee DPS now. Its a fact, sorry if you disagree but it doesn't make it any less fact.

[VisRalis]

Dragoon without a doubt.

Really? xDD



(I'd say Bard & Ninja is easier)

[Pluvia]

It really is all relative to the person themselves this thread is pointless lol

[Ayuhra]

I've been wondering this too, honestly. I'm not the spring chicken I used to be.

I rolled BLM because I was told it was easy and in ARR that seemed true-ish. Now it's making me a little nuts. It feels slow, unwieldy, awkward and I've come to realize a long history of playing extremely fast, mobile classes in other games is crippling my ability to play a turret, especially with all the vicious movement required in Heavensward so far.

I did start up a Bard in ARR and loved it. Being able to dps on the move felt much better to me but the news of Wanderer's Minuet kept me from leveling the Bard. I've stuck to BLM due to inertia, but I think I need to have something else to use for my sanity.

Help.

Help.

[kenventa]

Probably BLM until you actually have to move.

"...Until you actually have to move". AS IF ALL BLM DOES IS BLAST FIRE TO TRAINING DUMMIES! Havent you seen the boss fights? Even the simpliest one?

[VisRalis]

I did start up a Bard in ARR and loved it. Being able to dps on the move felt much better to me but the news of Wanderer's Minuet kept me from leveling the Bard. I've stuck to BLM due to inertia, but I think I need to have something else to use for my sanity.

Help.

Help.

Ninja has a trait that increases your move speed - like having a permanent Bard's Swiftsong.
After playing it, all other classes feel slow and sluggish xd. Running out of AOE's is much easier (and even better with Shukuchi teleport, love it!).

Try it out - I'm loving NIN atm.

[Nadirah]

Stupid q, wtf is the ninja rabbit?

[VisRalis]

Its when you mess up your Mudras and you activate a dud Ninjutsu, showing a rabbit dancing on your head.

[Sessurea]

Really? xDD



(I'd say Bard & Ninja is easier)

Idk drg after expansion, but pre expansion it was eaiest. Strict rotation. No procs. No choices or decisions to be made. Was hands down without a doubt the easiest job to play. Any1 who refers to the length of the drg rotation in those days as an indication of difficulty doesn't know drg because it all boiled down to priority in the end.

Bard was harder from a min max perspective I promise you that. Right up to the end of fcob pre echo certain bards kept raising the bar higher and higher. There was even a 560 t11 parse ( where no lame milk strats are possible ). This was from insane overplay of a class. It was kinda hard to overplay drg pre 3.0. im sure a lot of drgs wont agree "my class is hard qq " but w/e.

And yes, obviously, the above is my opinion. Useless and subjective as any other opinion in this thread.