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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    He... didn't really seem that beaten to me, no. I suspect we'll fight him as the end boss of the Gration in a major patch or two.

    Varis, however, is also aboard, and perfectly fine.
    No we did beat him. Its just it wasn't a "to the death" defeat, but rather a forced retreat. If he had stayed to fight us completely seriously we would have eventually killed him, and he was wise enough to retreat when he could. When we do fight him again he'll probably either have better backup, or some sorta power-up tech to help him. That said technically the Garleans probably completely retreated, but we won't know till later on in the story. It would be wierd if we just left them there seeing as our character and everyone with them at the time should know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    It would be wierd if we just left them there seeing as our character and everyone with them at the time should know better.
    We left Azys Lla with the Gration parked near a section of the Gamma Quadrant now named Castrum Solus. So... yeah. Pretty sure we gave the Emeperor the best nameday present a conqueror could ask for. 4.0 will be fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    We left Azys Lla with the Gration parked near a section of the Gamma Quadrant now named Castrum Solus. So... yeah. Pretty sure we gave the Emeperor the best nameday present a conqueror could ask for. 4.0 will be fun.
    We also pretty much cut bloody swaths through multiple imperial bases yet somehow they have just as much personnel when we come back later. Some things are just gameplay changes...that said either A.) THe story will say they retreated for a time but came back, or B.) While they may not have retreated fully, we will be going back with the power of the Grand Alliance to force them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    We also pretty much cut bloody swaths through multiple imperial bases yet somehow they have just as much personnel when we come back later. Some things are just gameplay changes...that said either A.) THe story will say they retreated for a time but came back, or B.) While they may not have retreated fully, we will be going back with the power of the Grand Alliance to force them out.
    You know, at this rate, they should just follow us around and come in after we inevitability relieve some dangerous and valuable location of its defenders for shiny pieces of equipment.



    It doesn't seem like the Ixali were abandoned, the panel just notes that they have genetic instability. The Ixali Beast Tribe are probably just descended from maintenance workers employed throughout the core of the Allagan Empire, and survived the Umbral Era that followed its demise. I would like to see what would happen if a Ixali managed to get its hands on a Allagan artifact; I doubt they would waste time teaching chimeras, they may have imprinted skills.
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    Last edited by LystAP; 06-29-2015 at 02:20 AM.

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    Look at Sightseeing log 036; it says the Gration is grounded due to its engines being sealed in aetheric ice by Shiva.

    Not much we, or they, can really do about it til it thaws...if they can be thawed through non-magical means.
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    I'm kinda getting FF6 vibes, especially if each Van is an homage to a FF villain.

    It IS interesting that some of the beastribes are actually Allagan creation. The Ixal are confirmed to be one, I am guessing the giants roaming the Mor Dhona and worship the CT are probably one as well. Perhaps the Vanu Vanu are Allagan creations as well? They were more or less tasked with keeping the key to Ayz Lla safe

    As another post said: there was another, powerful, dragon that escaped it's binding over 2000 years ago

    Though I am more concerned as to how/why the land near the Warring Triad looks like flesh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    I'm kinda getting FF6 vibes, especially if each Van is an homage to a FF villain.

    It IS interesting that some of the beastribes are actually Allagan creation. The Ixal are confirmed to be one, I am guessing the giants roaming the Mor Dhona and worship the CT are probably one as well. Perhaps the Vanu Vanu are Allagan creations as well? They were more or less tasked with keeping the key to Ayz Lla safe

    As another post said: there was another, powerful, dragon that escaped it's binding over 2000 years ago

    Though I am more concerned as to how/why the land near the Warring Triad looks like flesh?
    You mean the 3 statues? on the quests of ravana/bismark ex, the npc said that gose beings were captured by the allagans. Its no so big surprive to find them on that "stone" state, we dont know what kind of method the allagans used on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    You mean the 3 statues? on the quests of ravana/bismark ex, the npc said that gose beings were captured by the allagans. Its no so big surprive to find them on that "stone" state, we dont know what kind of method the allagans used on them.
    Binding coils, like the ones on poor Tiamat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Binding coils, like the ones on poor Tiamat.
    I have a feeling that it's probably not a Binding Coil, simply due to the fact that they're petrified, unless they were somehow able to perfect the binding coil method and used an advance method to seal them post Bahamut?

    Maybe that weird flesh-like core underneath the Warring Triad Facility/ research center is how they combined flesh with ____? It might explain why Xande, Amon, and co all look like giant flesh-magitek hybrid.

    Either way, it certainly gives a new definition of "The land's alive"
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    I have a feeling that it's probably not a Binding Coil, simply due to the fact that they're petrified, unless they were somehow able to perfect the binding coil method and used an advance method to seal them post Bahamut?
    Now that I look again, the rings around the Triad and the ones binding Tiamat aren't the same. In any event, I'd wager they are likely a precursor to the system implemented by Dalamud. There's no way that either system's output can be more powerful, after all, or Dalamud would never have been necessary for Xande's voidgate.

    I'm debating whether it would be better to simply compartmentalize any points brought up only in the CT storyline outside of canon for the time being, since Cid and the Ironworks crew have now been confirmed as having been working nonstop on something completely different in the time since the Praetorium, and Azys Lla itself is just too ironic.
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