How is BLM in new expansion?

[Woggers]

Loving the changes to BLM! The step up in difficulty is much welcomed. You are a destructive force when you are able to keep Enochian up 100% of the time. I've had a blast reworking my rotation, and I'm getting to that point to where Enochian is always up. It's great to watch these high HP mobs just melt before the power of getting hit 3 x Fire IV then a proc-ed Fire III. Amaze balls. For all the haters, GIT GUD.

[hallena]

Loving the changes to BLM! The step up in difficulty is much welcomed. You are a destructive force when you are able to keep Enochian up 100% of the time. I've had a blast reworking my rotation, and I'm getting to that point to where Enochian is always up. It's great to watch these high HP mobs just melt before the power of getting hit 3 x Fire IV then a proc-ed Fire III. Amaze balls. For all the haters, GIT GUD.

Im glad SE doesnt balance classes around killing B ranks. It's nice to see you're having a great adventure killing random monsters in zones though. keep it up!
However don't comment about class balance in a raiding environement if you don't raid

[Garotte14]

Im glad SE doesnt balance classes around killing B ranks. It's nice to see you're having a great adventure killing random monsters in zones though. keep it up!
However don't comment about class balance in a raiding environement if you don't raid

I'm currently pulling around 700 dps in bizmark extreme. Enochian is up about 95% of the time. What he said was spot on. And yes I am a raider, and yes I will be doing savage Alexander, and yes I will be pulling big numbers in there regardless of fight mechanics. So if you're going to talk shit to people, then you better know what you're talking about as well. GIT GUD

[hallena]

I'm currently pulling around 700 dps in bizmark extreme. Enochian is up about 95% of the time. What he said was spot on. And yes I am a raider, and yes I will be doing savage Alexander, and yes I will be pulling big numbers in there regardless of fight mechanics. So if you're going to talk shit to people, then you better know what you're talking about as well. GIT GUD

Cool. Now compare yourself to a good summoner.
Who also has more aoe, mobility and utility. Which lead to what the whole complaining is about. There is no reason to bring a blm because smn is better at everything. except dummy dps testing

[Arkenne]

At least Yoshi plays BLM... so if he himself gets convinced of the BLM terribleness, you guys will have one hell of a lever to pull from and force some changes for BLM on SE.

[Woggers]

Im glad SE doesnt balance classes around killing B ranks. It's nice to see you're having a great adventure killing random monsters in zones though. keep it up!
However don't comment about class balance in a raiding environement if you don't raid

Wow I'm sorry my success hurts you so! I do raid btw, check out my lodestone, I don't hide my achievements. Remember there will always be people more skilled than others. It seems that this time is one of those cases. Hope you figure out the new rotation! If you have any questions on what to do I'll be more than happy to leave so tips for you.

[Waliel]

You can't assume full duration of Thundercloud though. Most of the time you get it, there is already duration remaining. Furthermore, you then have to use a F1 afterwards, which costs more Mana than a F4, meaning you'll lose another F4 from your rotation later on.

It shouldn't be a DPS loss to lose procs.

Eh, true. There are few rare places where you can still use your cloud, though. Just trying to think where.

thundercloud doesn't get astral fire bonuses

I know. A full T3 Thundercloud is 60+8*35*2=620.

[Sleigh]

Wow I'm sorry my success hurts you so! I do raid btw, check out my lodestone, I don't hide my achievements. Remember there will always be people more skilled than others. It seems that this time is one of those cases. Hope you figure out the new rotation! If you have any questions on what to do I'll be more than happy to leave so tips for you.

/checks Lodestone

- no Savage, no EX Bismark/Ravana, only beaten T13 1-4 times with 15% echo

Not to be a complete dick but ... what success? Probably shouldn't have referenced your Lodestone as a "I am raider hear me roar" gesture.

Also I doubt anyone here can't do the dungeons properly with Enochian (the only endgame you've apparently seen in 3.0). Anyone can do the Enochian rotation, and keep it up in that environment. We're talking about mechanic heavy turns, which you might not understand will have actual DPS checks in proper gear when it's released, and a good SMN will have us at a disadvantage.

The class is strong in its nature, there's no denying that. Closer to melee than we've EVER been. But the core of the class has been and always should be about mitigating mobility - now it has that same penalty, but we have longer casts (less chance to successfully stutter step dodge) while messing with Enochian timers, Astral Heat, CDs, Leylines. There are workarounds, compromises. I'm not even sure if Yoshi-P intended full Enochian or not at this point, perhaps BLM isn't designed to keep up with melee in every fight we can and that's the point. That said I just don't foresee patch 3.0 BLM thriving in the only hardcore raid content we'll have unless a tweak or two is thrown here or there, mostly extremely small ones unrelated to damage output.

[hallena]

Wow I'm sorry my success hurts you so! I do raid btw, check out my lodestone, I don't hide my achievements. Remember there will always be people more skilled than others. It seems that this time is one of those cases. Hope you figure out the new rotation! If you have any questions on what to do I'll be more than happy to leave so tips for you.

I did look at your achievements before making my post. The only content you've done in heavensward is dungeons and hunts. Nothing that is mechanic heavy.
If alexander savage is anything like bismarck extreme, Nobody will ever bring a blm over smn due to lower single target damage when movement/mechanic is involved. lower aoe, less utility and less mobility.

[Aikaal]

Not to mention that Attack SPeed form Leylines is stupid. It's worth is being reduced by spell speed since it reduce your current GCD so at 2.4 it will give less than 2.5. Meanwhile, SMN get a 20% spell speed buff from their pet crits which increases their DPS. Anyone noticed how Selene got nerfed because all the jobs would have been op with dots and it's not the case for BLM? Thunder is a filler move, increasing dot dps with speed gives us almost 0 DPS gain and BLM got unfairly punished without any adjustment for the dps lost.