How is BLM in new expansion?

[Garotte14]

Im glad SE doesnt balance classes around killing B ranks. It's nice to see you're having a great adventure killing random monsters in zones though. keep it up!
However don't comment about class balance in a raiding environement if you don't raid

I'm currently pulling around 700 dps in bizmark extreme. Enochian is up about 95% of the time. What he said was spot on. And yes I am a raider, and yes I will be doing savage Alexander, and yes I will be pulling big numbers in there regardless of fight mechanics. So if you're going to talk shit to people, then you better know what you're talking about as well. GIT GUD

[hallena]

I'm currently pulling around 700 dps in bizmark extreme. Enochian is up about 95% of the time. What he said was spot on. And yes I am a raider, and yes I will be doing savage Alexander, and yes I will be pulling big numbers in there regardless of fight mechanics. So if you're going to talk shit to people, then you better know what you're talking about as well. GIT GUD

Cool. Now compare yourself to a good summoner.
Who also has more aoe, mobility and utility. Which lead to what the whole complaining is about. There is no reason to bring a blm because smn is better at everything. except dummy dps testing

[Malevicton]

Cool. Now compare yourself to a good summoner.
Who also has more aoe, mobility and utility. Which lead to what the whole complaining is about. There is no reason to bring a blm because smn is better at everything. except dummy dps testing

Burst dps checks (like t5 conflags), small hp adds. There's no raid right now for us to compare ourselves in, so it's bit early to say that there's no environment where blm thrives.

[Aikaal]

Burst dps checks (like t5 conflags), small hp adds. There's no raid right now for us to compare ourselves in, so it's bit early to say that there's no environment where blm thrives.

Conflag in T5, bane dots from Twintania + Fester. Lol, you picked the wrong example. Do you want to know what I think of small hp adds in Ravana Ex? Cast cancel at 0.3 sec left cause the add is dead. You can bane dots on those adds.

You can easily compare SMN and BLM with Bismark X and Ravana X and I assume you haven't done them yet?

[Malevicton]

Conflag in T5, bane dots from Twintania + Fester. Lol, you picked the wrong example. Do you want to know what I think of small hp adds in Ravana Ex? Cast cancel at 0.3 sec left cause the add is dead. You can bane dots on those adds.

You can easily compare SMN and BLM with Bismark X and Ravana X and I assume you haven't done them yet?

If your cast gets interrupted, that's your fault, not blm being underbalanced. Baning dots on those adds is a waste of aetherflow, they'll die within 2 tics. Bane+fester on conflag doesn't match blm burst; anything that dies before dots can get significant duration blm will win out for that phase.

I've cleared both extremes, have you? And yeah, you can compare them but it's an incomplete picture. Looking backwards, would it have been reasonable to compare classes only with the 3 ex primals and ignore t1-5?

E: I'm not saying they're definitely balanced, just that we don't have enough information to say with certainty that we're not balanced. It's only 1 more week til alexander and then we'll have some perspective. To quote the greatest general advice from Douglass Adams: "Don't panic"

[OneWingedSora]

Conflag in T5, bane dots from Twintania + Fester. Lol, you picked the wrong example. Do you want to know what I think of small hp adds in Ravana Ex? Cast cancel at 0.3 sec left cause the add is dead. You can bane dots on those adds.

You can easily compare SMN and BLM with Bismark X and Ravana X and I assume you haven't done them yet?

I mean, you could just stay on the boss and the moon ganas. 3 DPS are more than enough for the other adds.

Also baning Dots on the conflag is a waste of DPS since the DoTs will likely not tick more than once unless your groups DPS is trash.

[Arkenne]

At least Yoshi plays BLM... so if he himself gets convinced of the BLM terribleness, you guys will have one hell of a lever to pull from and force some changes for BLM on SE.

[Waliel]

You can't assume full duration of Thundercloud though. Most of the time you get it, there is already duration remaining. Furthermore, you then have to use a F1 afterwards, which costs more Mana than a F4, meaning you'll lose another F4 from your rotation later on.

It shouldn't be a DPS loss to lose procs.

Eh, true. There are few rare places where you can still use your cloud, though. Just trying to think where.

thundercloud doesn't get astral fire bonuses

I know. A full T3 Thundercloud is 60+8*35*2=620.

[Aikaal]

Not to mention that Attack SPeed form Leylines is stupid. It's worth is being reduced by spell speed since it reduce your current GCD so at 2.4 it will give less than 2.5. Meanwhile, SMN get a 20% spell speed buff from their pet crits which increases their DPS. Anyone noticed how Selene got nerfed because all the jobs would have been op with dots and it's not the case for BLM? Thunder is a filler move, increasing dot dps with speed gives us almost 0 DPS gain and BLM got unfairly punished without any adjustment for the dps lost.

[waifugenerator]

BLMs won't be "left behind" in progression. A BLM can use their 2.0 rotation for mobility and STILL pull ~750-900dps. They don't have to stand still the entire fight lol