Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
I think the following highlights the concerns quite well.



Listing off how their mana regen abilities as if it was some kind of "benefit" to the class is silly. They use VASTLY more mana than either WARs or PLD. It's not a benefit to the class, it's a requirement to make it function at all.

Oh, the skill that's equivalent to Vengeance minus the porcupine effect? It doesn't have Vengeance's 2min cooldown or Rampart's 90sec cooldown, it has Sentinel's 3 minute cooldown (you know sentinel with the 40% damage reduction, not vengeance's 30% damage reduction?). If that ability was on a 90s cooldown we'd be having a different conversation.
Where is Foresight? Where is Awareness? Where is Convalescence? To ignore these skills is a sign of incompetence. ALL your tools make up a tank, not just the ones that come stock. I'm aware of the effect and the CD on Shadow Wall. Its CD is like Sentinel, then plan with it like Sentinel.