Defensive ability, WAR VS DRK

[Xariann]

Hi All,

EDIT: Check my calculations in this post.

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First of all let me premise that I have not been tanking seriously since Bravura was the best weapon you could get. So I might be a little out of date when writing this.

I levelled my DRK up to 46, I started reading about it more and people said it was squishy and went back to Warrior. When I look at their skillset though, I am unclear as to what is causing it. Warrior doesn't have Shadow Wall. Also the Warrior doesn't spam IB like the DRK spams Souleater (with Soul Devourer).

If I am using IB, I am dropping my 10% parry buff, while DRK gets Dark Dance every minute and can have 20%.

Then there is the controllable Storm Path VS RNG Reprisal.

Warrior does get more healing on them, but a hit on a warrior should the same amount of a hit on a DRK. I guess Shadow Wall doesn't compensate for that being on a 180 secs CD and all...

If you hit level 60 with the DRK, do you/your healers still think you are hard to heal once you have everything?

[Violette]

You really feel the lack of a shield or bonus healing. That's all I can put it down too now.

[Jamez82]

I have yet to be told that it's hard to heal me at 57. In fact some say it's comparable to PLD.

There's just a lot of DRK at the moment that don't have enough tanking experience. Give it time.

[Hinata_Kenpachi]

I have yet to be told that it's hard to heal me at 57. In fact some say it's comparable to PLD.

There's just a lot of DRK at the moment that don't have enough tanking experience. Give it time.

Thou I am not 57 and only 48 I can agree with this... many of my FC mates when the early access started was complaining about how the class was so squishy in pugs. I have yet to die to anything that wasn't just me being dumb or some dps pulling when they shouldn't. the class really feels like a PLD and War combined. very well done.

[Xenosan]

Defiance = Grit
Shadowskin = Inner Beast
Shadow Wall = Vengeance
Storm's Path = ???/SoulEater/Abyssal Drain/Reprisal/Darkdance
Dark Passenger > Steel Cyclone

WAR Blood Bath > DRK Blood Bath (longer duration)
WAR Convalescence = DRK Convalescence
WAR Foresight > DRK Foresight (Shorter CD)

No experience for me yet have had groups grumble about DRK tank. And never have I died or party wiped that afterwards we thought, "Ugh, if only Reprisal had proc'd, we would have survived!"

[Reynhart]

Defiance = Grit

Not exactly, but the difference is slim. For them to be exactly on par, Defiance should buff healing received by 25%

Storm's Path = ???/SoulEater/Abyssal Drain/Reprisal/Darkdance

Souleater heals way more than Storm's Path, do to the far higher potency under Dark Arts. And Abysall Drain doesn't require a combo, can be enhanced every two hits (As long as you have MP), and hits all targets nearby thus giving you massive HP back. With Blood Price up, I think DRK can be king of speedruns
I think DRK will benefit more than other Tank from a Parry build, to help put Reprisal every 30s.

DRK also has another cooldown to reduce magic damage.

[wonka11]

etc. etc. etc.

I don't like your posts, because they're always wrong.

You're not taking in the raw 10% reduction in damage for Storm's Path that does the healing and mitigation. You're not taking in the fact that War berserk and maim increase self healing from all their abilities.

You're cherry picking out of context warrior abilities, not seeing the forest for the trees, and doing some really bad comparisons, and giving some really bad advice.

[Reynhart]

You're not taking in the raw 10% reduction in damage for Storm's Path that does the healing and mitigation. You're not taking in the fact that War berserk and maim increase self healing from all their abilities.

And you try to convince me that you can heal more than a 1200 potency spell that can be boosted by 30% with, at best, a 300 potency skill, even with 80% more damage...
And forgetting that all your healing skills need at least 3 GCD to pop...time during the PLD can cast Clemency several times.

It's becoming really funny for all WAR lovers to claim they can deal faaar more damage than others tanks, and heal faaaar more and take hits faaaar easily.
Live in your dream, buddy, and cringe while everyone will still prefer PLD as a main tank.

[aerolol]

And you try to convince me that you can heal more than a 1200 potency spell that can be boosted by 30% with, at best, a 300 potency skill, even with 80% more damage...
And forgetting that all your healing skills need at least 3 GCD to pop...time during the PLD can cast Clemency several times.

It's becoming really funny for all WAR lovers to claim they can deal faaar more damage than others tanks, and heal faaaar more and take hits faaaar easily.
Live in your dream, buddy, and cringe while everyone will still prefer PLD as a main tank.

What is funny is how you have no clue about what you are talking about.

WAR can self heal for 7k+ in 2 seconds
Thrill of Battle for max HP increase + heal of that amount (3k+ at 60), new skill which is INSTANT CAST and also has 1200 cure potency (Equilibrium) for another 3k+, Second Wind as cross class for 1k+

I'm not even taking into acount double inner beasts, which heal for 1k+ each... over 3k total heal with berserk+bloodbath...

So a WAR can self-heal themselves for 10k in 3-4 seconds if you use the instant skills during/between inner beasts...

How many Clemency can you cast in 3-4 seconds, again??

[Zordrage]

i was not once in a group with a DRK at 50 and i can say they bassicaly facerolling stuff. they feel like moving walls that barely loose HP lol

lets not talk about their CRAZY AOE aggro Spam they have its bassicaly imposible to steal aggro from them.