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    Minerva Cho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupiduglytaru View Post
    Does it just take 25% of the dmg you did while under it and apply at end?
    That's correct.

    Well, according to the japanese forums (thanks to @kiyamashuuichi), here's a full buff Wild Fire (lvl56 MCH) dmg:

    Gauss Barrel ON = 1900 to about 2000
    Gauss Barrel OFF = about 2100-2200

    Now i'm confused if it's better to do an opening with GB or not :/
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    Kevvy Alexandros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth View Post
    That's correct.

    Well, according to the japanese forums (thanks to @kiyamashuuichi), here's a full buff Wild Fire (lvl56 MCH) dmg:

    Gauss Barrel ON = 1900 to about 2000
    Gauss Barrel OFF = about 2100-2200

    Now i'm confused if it's better to do an opening with GB or not :/
    It's starting to become apparent that something is very off, not working as intended with MCH and Gauss Barrel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth View Post
    That's correct.

    Well, according to the japanese forums (thanks to @kiyamashuuichi), here's a full buff Wild Fire (lvl56 MCH) dmg:

    Gauss Barrel ON = 1900 to about 2000
    Gauss Barrel OFF = about 2100-2200

    Now i'm confused if it's better to do an opening with GB or not :/
    So I did some tests in game again as well as creating a rough spreadsheet of the first 20 seconds of an opener, and yeah, Wildfire basically does more damage without Gauss Barrel even if you cancel Gauss Barrel after the first Clean Shot. The discrepancies in the opener starting with Gauss Barrel and without were taken from 20 samples, but I guess RNG acts up. And so, it's not worth hard casting Gauss Barrel either.

    Here's the spreadsheet with the math done: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing



    ): Gauss Barrel is basically useless other than for AoE pulls.

    EDIT: Whoops, forgot to extend the GB openers to 20 seconds, GB is worth using only until Clean Shot after all for higher overall DPS in the first 20 seconds but not higher Wildfire damage.
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    Last edited by Cascadi; 06-23-2015 at 02:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascadi View Post

    Here's the spreadsheet with the math done: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing



    ): Gauss Barrel is basically useless other than for AoE pulls.

    EDIT: Whoops, forgot to extend the GB openers to 20 seconds, GB is worth using only until Clean Shot after all for higher overall DPS in the first 20 seconds but not higher Wildfire damage.
    Does the spreadsheet account for rapid fire? Ideally you would open with rapid fire and gauss, then cancel after the first crit clean shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupbot View Post
    Does the spreadsheet account for rapid fire? Ideally you would open with rapid fire and gauss, then cancel after the first crit clean shot.
    The spreadsheet accounts for rapid fire and assumes you start with 5 ammo. If you do not start with 5 ammo, having Gauss Barrel at all in the opener is a large DPS loss, so if you do not want to use Reload/Quick Reload pre-pull, you can just go open without Gauss Barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascadi View Post
    The spreadsheet accounts for rapid fire and assumes you start with 5 ammo. If you do not start with 5 ammo, having Gauss Barrel at all in the opener is a large DPS loss, so if you do not want to use Reload/Quick Reload pre-pull, you can just go open without Gauss Barrel.
    Can you explain (with formula and calculation or testing?):
    1. why you would start with Gauss Barrel off instead of having it on and turn it off after the first clean shot (as others suggest)?
    2. whether you would consider using Rapid Fire to have your Gauss Barrel up without casting for Gauss Round and Ricochet (with the dot perhaps)? If yes, would you do it every 90s (Rapid Fire) or 180s (Rapid Fire + Reload)? When do you turn it off and what should the rotation be?

    Sorry for throwing ideas all over the place. I really want to test it myself but I am still on my way to level 60.
    Btw, I believe cd for Quick Reload should be 30s (one of the Traits shortens it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChespinXL View Post
    Can you explain (with formula and calculation or testing?):
    1. why you would start with Gauss Barrel off instead of having it on and turn it off after the first clean shot (as others suggest)?
    2. whether you would consider using Rapid Fire to have your Gauss Barrel up without casting for Gauss Round and Ricochet (with the dot perhaps)? If yes, would you do it every 90s (Rapid Fire) or 180s (Rapid Fire + Reload)? When do you turn it off and what should the rotation be?

    Sorry for throwing ideas all over the place. I really want to test it myself but I am still on my way to level 60.
    Btw, I believe cd for Quick Reload should be 30s (one of the Traits shortens it).

    1. Hi, the opener starts with Gauss Barrel on and turning it off after the first Clean Shot, and the difference between having it on/off is in the spreadsheet that I linked earlier: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
    Pre 60 when you don't have access to Ricochet it's a DPS loss so don't bother with Gauss Barrel outside of AoE

    2. Because Reload doesn't line up with your buffs after the opener you'd have a cast time on your Shots and no +20 potency which builds off of Gauss Barrel and removes the RNG so it is not worth using Rapid Fire for Gauss Barrel until you get Ricochet, pre-60 you'd use it at the 180s mark when you'd have access to Raging Strikes again. Also yeah, the CD for Quick Reload is 30s, lemme fix that.
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    Last edited by Cascadi; 06-23-2015 at 07:43 AM.